john one

Hi there and sorry for my lack of knowledge but i just cant seem to understand something. I would like to have a object that could send bang in a desired tempo while being able to change its timing while in the same tempo from 8 to 16 to 24 to 32. Well the tempo object seems that it should do the job, but unfortunately when I open it the bangs seem to change thus the rhythm change. I posted here the example in which you can hear that the bangs are constantly changing the rhythm where the desired result would be constant stable bangs at the wanted tempo where you can change the steps up to 32 while maintaining the time that it should loop. So guys what am i doing wrong here?

Hi there and sorry for my lack of knowledge but i just cant seem to understand something. I would like to have a object that could send bang in a desired tempo while being able to change its timing while in the same tempo from 8 to 16 to 24 to 32.   Well the tempo object seems that it should do the job, but unfortunately when I open it the bangs seem to change thus the rhythm change. I posted here the example in which you can hear that the bangs are constantly changing the rhythm  where the desired result would be constant stable bangs  at the wanted tempo where you can change the steps up to 32 while maintaining the time that it should loop. So guys what am i doing wrong here? 

tempo-question

if say i would like to use metro to do the same job how could i change the timing in the metro to 8 - 16 - 24 -32 steps within the same tempo and loop cycle?

I think you'd be better advised to work at signal rate for what you're describing [it's not really well described, but - if I understand you correctly - the problem with what you describe is going to be difficult with a 

 object because it's scheduling ticks in the future].

The "Humble Beginnings" section of the following tutorial shows you how to take a 

 object whose frequency you set, change or subdivide the output from the 

 object, and also how to generate a bang from the audio rate data. Start from there....

https://cycling74.com/tutorials/lfo-tutorial-1-the-zen-of-the-silent-patch-rRHY

I think you'd be better advised to work at signal rate for what you're describing [it's not really well described, but - if I understand you correctly - the problem with what you describe is going to be difficult with a metro object because it's scheduling ticks in the future].

The "Humble Beginnings" section of the following tutorial shows you how to take a phasor~ object whose frequency you set, change or subdivide the output from the phasor~ using a rate~ object, and also how to generate a bang from the audio rate data. Start from there....

https://cycling74.com/tutorials/lfo-tutorial-1-the-zen-of-the-silent-patch-rRHY


I saw the tutorial you posted and it made clear some of the concepts i was missing! thank you for that.

well i tried to put what you said (and saw in the tutorial ) together but i am missing something since it is not working yet. could you have a look??

hey thanx for your quick reply!!
I saw the tutorial you posted and it made clear some of the concepts i was missing! thank you for that.
well i tried to put what you said  (and saw in the tutorial ) together but i am missing something since it is not working yet. could you have a look??

Look at the tutorial patch again. You missed something.

hey man, i think i missed the global transport part. Well now it seems to work but the timing sounds funny still... lets say i set the bpm from the global transport, and want in each cycle 16 steps, i then set the 16n and the bangs are still not precisely placed in time and you hear these rhythmic variations. i posted the patch as well if you would like to see it. any thoughts on that?

hey man, i think i missed the global transport part. Well now it seems to work but the timing sounds funny still...  lets say i set the bpm from the global transport, and want in each cycle 16 steps, i then set  the 16n and  the bangs are still not precisely placed in time and you hear these rhythmic variations. i posted the patch as well if you would like to see it. any thoughts on that?
thanx for all the help


Think of the 2nd and 3rd arguments (3rd and 4th inlets) of the tempo object as the numerator and denominator of a fraction of a whole note. One measure of 4/4 time is a whole note (1/1). For quarter-note output, use the fraction 1/4. For eighth-note output use 1/8. For triplet eighth-notes, use 1/12. Etc.

For even more control and versatility, see the transport object and use it with metro (or phasor~ for audio signal control).

thanx for your help christopher.
All the replies where really helpful!!


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