Jan M

though i am using MAX/MSP/Jitter since a few years by now i am new here in the forum.

At the moment i am working on a patch for live VJ-ing that should be easily controllable via a touchscreen. Therefor i have a subpatch with a huge amount of fpic - ubutton objects shown in a bpatcher as tabs.

when a ubutton is clicked i would like to send it's scripting name as a message to the receiver object. is there any way to achieve this in Max 5?

i thing about something like a function call in javascript. ie.:

when a ubutton is clicked i would like to send it's scripting name as a message to the receiver object. is there any way to achieve this in Max 5? 

i thing about something like a function call in javascript. ie.: 

transmitting-the-scripting-name-of-an-object-its-reciever

The patch below will dynamically assign a [receive] object based on the text of a button in the [tab] object. I'm not sure what you meant about the scripting names but if you could post a patch with the things you have tried maybe it will become clear to me. I hope this helps.

at the end of the post there is a patch that is showing a bit better what i am searching for.

in my patch are many buttons (in the original script it will be ubuttons) that will be dynamically connected to other objects. as they will be really a lot i would like to avoid to connect every button with a message box to distinguish which button is sending the bang /message.

it is mostly a matter of efficiency: the scripting name in the inspector is generated automatically by copy/pasting using an ascending index.

is there any way i.e. with a javascript in a js object to read the scripting name of the object sending a message?

            "box" :             {

                "maxclass" : "comment",

                "text" : "// the original patch is using ubuttons instead of buttons. this is // // just to demontrate the priniple",

                "linecount" : 2,

                "numinlets" : 1,

                "numoutlets" : 0,

                "fontname" : "Arial",

                "id" : "obj-37",

                "fontsize" : 12.0,

                "patching_rect" : [ 165.0, 390.0, 352.0, 34.0 ]

                "text" : "// is there a way to find out (for the js or any other // object) which button in sending a bang?",

                "id" : "obj-34",

                "patching_rect" : [ 165.0, 570.0, 276.0, 34.0 ]

                "text" : "// change value to create connections",

                "id" : "obj-32",

                "patching_rect" : [ 270.0, 90.0, 218.0, 20.0 ]

                "maxclass" : "button",

                "varname" : "b[16]",

                "numoutlets" : 1,

                "outlettype" : [ "bang" ],

                "id" : "obj-28",

                "patching_rect" : [ 675.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[15]",

                "id" : "obj-27",

                "patching_rect" : [ 645.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[14]",

                "id" : "obj-26",

                "patching_rect" : [ 615.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[13]",

                "id" : "obj-25",

                "patching_rect" : [ 585.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[12]",

                "id" : "obj-24",

                "patching_rect" : [ 555.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[11]",

                "id" : "obj-23",

                "patching_rect" : [ 525.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[10]",

                "id" : "obj-22",

                "patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[9]",

                "id" : "obj-21",

                "patching_rect" : [ 465.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[8]",

                "id" : "obj-20",

                "patching_rect" : [ 435.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[7]",

                "id" : "obj-19",

                "patching_rect" : [ 399.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "maxclass" : "newobj",

                "text" : "value cord",

                "outlettype" : [ "" ],

                "id" : "obj-16",

                "patching_rect" : [ 209.0, 242.0, 66.0, 20.0 ]

                "id" : "obj-7",

                "patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 179.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "text" : "sprintf script disconnect b[%s] 0 js_1 0",

                "id" : "obj-5",

                "patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 240.0, 215.0, 20.0 ]

                "id" : "obj-4",

                "patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 208.0, 66.0, 20.0 ]

                "text" : "sprintf script connect b[%s] 0 js_1 0",

                "id" : "obj-18",

                "patching_rect" : [ 285.0, 242.0, 199.0, 20.0 ]

                "maxclass" : "number",

                "minimum" : 1,

                "numoutlets" : 2,

                "maximum" : 16,

                "outlettype" : [ "int", "bang" ],

                "id" : "obj-15",

                "patching_rect" : [ 210.0, 90.0, 50.0, 20.0 ]

                "text" : "thispatcher",

                "outlettype" : [ "", "" ],

                "id" : "obj-14",

                "patching_rect" : [ 406.0, 292.0, 69.0, 20.0 ],

                "save" : [ "#N", "thispatcher", ";", "#Q", "end", ";" ]

                "varname" : "js_1",

                "text" : "js",

                "id" : "obj-13",

                "patching_rect" : [ 271.0, 520.0, 96.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[6]",

                "id" : "obj-12",

                "patching_rect" : [ 364.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[5]",

                "id" : "obj-11",

                "patching_rect" : [ 327.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[4]",

                "id" : "obj-10",

                "patching_rect" : [ 288.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[3]",

                "id" : "obj-9",

                "patching_rect" : [ 249.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[2]",

                "id" : "obj-8",

                "patching_rect" : [ 211.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "varname" : "b[1]",

                "id" : "obj-2",

                "patching_rect" : [ 172.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]

                "maxclass" : "panel",

                "id" : "obj-17",

                "background" : 1,

                "patching_rect" : [ 150.0, 375.0, 568.0, 237.0 ]

                "id" : "obj-29",

                "patching_rect" : [ 150.0, 45.0, 564.0, 322.0 ]

            "patchline" :             {

                "source" : [ "obj-11", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-13", 0 ],

                "hidden" : 0,

                "midpoints" : [ ]

                "source" : [ "obj-15", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-16", 0 ],

                "midpoints" : [ 219.5, 169.0, 218.5, 169.0 ]

                "destination" : [ "obj-7", 0 ],

                "midpoints" : [ 219.5, 168.0, 504.5, 168.0 ]

                "source" : [ "obj-7", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-4", 0 ],

                "source" : [ "obj-5", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-14", 0 ],

                "source" : [ "obj-4", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-5", 0 ],

                "destination" : [ "obj-18", 0 ],

                "midpoints" : [ 219.5, 168.0, 294.5, 168.0 ]

                "source" : [ "obj-18", 0 ],

ps: how did you generate the short version of the patcher text?

at the end of the post there is a patch that is showing a bit better what i am searching for. 

it is mostly a matter of efficiency: the scripting name in the inspector is generated automatically by copy/pasting using an ascending index. 

is there any way i.e. with a javascript in a js object  to read the scripting name of the object sending a message?

{
	"boxes" : [ 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "comment",
				"text" : "// the original patch is using ubuttons instead of buttons. this is // // just to demontrate the priniple",
				"linecount" : 2,
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 0,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"id" : "obj-37",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 165.0, 390.0, 352.0, 34.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "comment",
				"text" : "// is there a way to find out (for the js or any other // object) which button in sending a bang?",
				"linecount" : 2,
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 0,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"id" : "obj-34",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 165.0, 570.0, 276.0, 34.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "comment",
				"text" : "// change value to create connections",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 0,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"id" : "obj-32",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 270.0, 90.0, 218.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[16]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-28",
				"patching_rect" : [ 675.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[15]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-27",
				"patching_rect" : [ 645.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[14]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-26",
				"patching_rect" : [ 615.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[13]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-25",
				"patching_rect" : [ 585.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[12]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-24",
				"patching_rect" : [ 555.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[11]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-23",
				"patching_rect" : [ 525.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[10]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-22",
				"patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[9]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-21",
				"patching_rect" : [ 465.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[8]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-20",
				"patching_rect" : [ 435.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[7]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-19",
				"patching_rect" : [ 399.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"text" : "value cord",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "" ],
				"id" : "obj-16",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 209.0, 242.0, 66.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-7",
				"patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 179.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"text" : "sprintf script disconnect b[%s] 0 js_1 0",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "" ],
				"id" : "obj-5",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 240.0, 215.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"text" : "value cord",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "" ],
				"id" : "obj-4",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 495.0, 208.0, 66.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"text" : "sprintf script connect b[%s] 0 js_1 0",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "" ],
				"id" : "obj-18",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 285.0, 242.0, 199.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "number",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"minimum" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 2,
				"maximum" : 16,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "int", "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-15",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 210.0, 90.0, 50.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"text" : "thispatcher",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 2,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "", "" ],
				"id" : "obj-14",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 406.0, 292.0, 69.0, 20.0 ],
				"save" : [ "#N", "thispatcher", ";", "#Q", "end", ";" ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "newobj",
				"varname" : "js_1",
				"text" : "js",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"fontname" : "Arial",
				"outlettype" : [ "" ],
				"id" : "obj-13",
				"fontsize" : 12.0,
				"patching_rect" : [ 271.0, 520.0, 96.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[6]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-12",
				"patching_rect" : [ 364.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[5]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-11",
				"patching_rect" : [ 327.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[4]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-10",
				"patching_rect" : [ 288.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[3]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-9",
				"patching_rect" : [ 249.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[2]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-8",
				"patching_rect" : [ 211.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "button",
				"varname" : "b[1]",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 1,
				"outlettype" : [ "bang" ],
				"id" : "obj-2",
				"patching_rect" : [ 172.0, 436.0, 20.0, 20.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "panel",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 0,
				"id" : "obj-17",
				"background" : 1,
				"patching_rect" : [ 150.0, 375.0, 568.0, 237.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"box" : 			{
				"maxclass" : "panel",
				"numinlets" : 1,
				"numoutlets" : 0,
				"id" : "obj-29",
				"background" : 1,
				"patching_rect" : [ 150.0, 45.0, 564.0, 322.0 ]
			}

		}
 ],
	"lines" : [ 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-11", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-13", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [  ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-15", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-16", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [ 219.5, 169.0, 218.5, 169.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-15", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-7", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [ 219.5, 168.0, 504.5, 168.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-7", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-4", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [  ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-5", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-14", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [  ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-4", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-5", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [  ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-15", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [ 219.5, 168.0, 294.5, 168.0 ]
			}

		}
, 		{
			"patchline" : 			{
				"source" : [ "obj-18", 0 ],
				"destination" : [ "obj-14", 0 ],
				"hidden" : 0,
				"midpoints" : [  ]
			}

ps: how did you generate the short version of the patcher text?


Apologies for bumping this old thread, I was wondering if anyone has come up with a solution. In my case I'm interested in trying to implement an MVC architecture using JavaScript (I know some MVC frameworks have been built for max using the pattr system, like Jamoma and tLb) I'd like objects in what is to be the 'view' part of the architecture to send their values to a central JavaScript object that will then act as the controller manipulating other objects in the patch. The problem is knowing which object in the view invoked the JavaScript.

A simple solution would be to manually prepend the scripting name of the object to the message sent to the JavaScript - but this seems cumbersome as maintaing the patch would mean having to type the scripting name is several places

I imagine you can also automate this in JavaScript by traversing the object tree starting with patcher.firstObject, moving through each object with .nextobject, and having the JavaScript copy the name of the object and dynamically create the prepend and send parts

I was wondering if anyone had a simpler solution. Is there a way to get objects to report their scripting name when sending values?

Apologies for bumping this old thread, I was wondering if anyone has come up with a solution. In my case I'm interested in trying to implement an MVC architecture using JavaScript (I know some MVC frameworks have been built for max using the pattr system, like Jamoma and tLb) I'd like objects in what is to be the 'view' part of the architecture to send their values to a central JavaScript object that will then act as the controller manipulating other objects in the patch. The problem is knowing which object in the view invoked the JavaScript. 

A simple solution would be to manually prepend the scripting name of the object to the message sent to the JavaScript - but  this seems cumbersome as maintaing the patch would mean having to type the scripting name is several places
I imagine you can also automate this in JavaScript by traversing the object tree starting with patcher.firstObject, moving through each object with .nextobject, and having the JavaScript copy the name of the object and dynamically create the prepend and send parts

I was wondering if anyone had a simpler solution. Is there a way to get objects to report their scripting name when sending values?


transmitting the scripting name of an object it's reciever