Luigi Castelli

I have an MSP object which perform envelope extraction on its input.

All the necessary calculations are carried out in the perform loop at

the sampling rate. However I don't really need the output of my object

to be at audio rate since the envelope of the signal can be

sampled at a much lower rate by the Max scheduler without significant

To achieve this goal, I have created a clock so that the object can be

polled at a specified scheduler interval.

1 - create a 'start', 'stop' and 'interval' methods and

make my clock interval user controllable like many objects do

2 - call my clock_delay function (with an argument of 0) at the end of

the perform routine outside of the perform loop ?

Both methods seem to work, however I am not sure if the latter would be

a good strategy. I am thinking specifically about the case when many

objects are to be instantiated in a patch. In this case they will all

concurrently call the clock function, causing calculations to be

performed at the same time at the end of each audio vector.

What are the consideration for choosing one versus the other ?

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I have an MSP object which perform envelope extraction on its input.
All the necessary calculations are carried out in the perform loop at
the sampling rate. However I don't really need the output of my object
to be at audio rate since the envelope of the signal can be
sampled at a much lower rate by the Max scheduler without significant
loss of information.

To achieve this goal, I have created a clock so that the object can be
polled at a specified scheduler interval.

1 - create a 'start', 'stop' and 'interval' methods and
make my clock interval user controllable like many objects do

2 - call my clock_delay function (with an argument of 0) at the end of
the perform routine outside of the perform loop ?

Both methods seem to work, however I am not sure if the latter would be
a good strategy. I am thinking specifically about the case when many
objects are to be instantiated in a patch. In this case they will all
concurrently call the clock function, causing calculations to be
performed at the same time at the end of each audio vector.

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using-clock_delay-for-polling-object

hi Luigi: i'm not that sure but maybe we have similar problems...

i'm trying to read samples from 8 channels of a usb-card (NI DAQmx 6008i), in a callback method.

Then i don't make use at all of MSP, but i have the need of using a custom control rate... i receive the suggestion of use clock and the defer (or defer_low) mechanism (if you read 

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=26931&start=0&rid=5771&S=1ee67e73279c30a011d05abe418d7784

 my topic maybe could be useful for your task too)

i'm not that sure, but the second options could be fine, with the defer_low mechanism

hi Luigi: i'm not that sure but maybe we have similar problems...
i'm trying to read samples from 8 channels of a usb-card (NI DAQmx 6008i), in a callback method.
Then i don't make use at all of MSP, but i have the need of using a custom control rate... i receive the suggestion of use clock and the defer (or defer_low) mechanism (if you read https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=26931&start=0&rid=5771&S=1ee67e73279c30a011d05abe418d7784 my topic maybe could be useful for your task too)

i'm not that sure, but the second options could be fine, with the defer_low mechanism


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I was just asking the best strategy to poll an object. Both ways I

tried work and I have implemented one I chose arbitrarily. I wanted to

ask the gurus if one method might be preferred over the other, and my

question is still open since I haven't received any replies to my

In your case - from what I understand - you have a callback method that

reads samples from your card and you are trying to output those sample

I am not familiar with the card you are using, however since we are

talking about sampling rate - 44100 Hz I assume - I would not mess with

the Max scheduler at all. There's way too much information needing to

I would find a way to synchronize the callback function with the DSP

method of the object, so that you're using the sampling rate as your

clock source. In this case your object will be an MSP object and will

have 8 signal outlets. So, no need to defer anything or to use clocks

because your data will be processed in the audio thread.

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> hi Luigi: i'm not that sure but maybe we have similar problems...

> i'm trying to read samples from 8 channels of a usb-card (NI DAQmx

> Then i don't make use at all of MSP, but i have the need of using a

> custom control rate... i receive the suggestion of use clock and the

> defer (or defer_low) mechanism (if you read

> my topic maybe could be useful for your task too)

> i'm not that sure, but the second options could be fine, with the

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In my thread:
https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=106947&rid=0&S=4d7093dabba3e3c0fa3041f57c8d7632&srch=polling+object#msg_106947

I was just asking the best strategy to poll an object. Both ways I
tried work and I have implemented one I chose arbitrarily. I wanted to
ask the gurus if one method might be preferred over the other, and my
question is still open since I haven't received any replies to my
initial question.

In your case - from what I understand - you have a callback method that
reads samples from your card and you are trying to output those sample
values at a regular interval.
I am not familiar with the card you are using, however since we are
talking about sampling rate - 44100 Hz I assume - I would not mess with
the Max scheduler at all. There's way too much information needing to
be output at a too fast of a rate.

I would find a way to synchronize the callback function with the DSP
method of the object, so that you're using the sampling rate as your
clock source. In this case your object will be an MSP object and will
have 8 signal outlets. So, no need to defer anything or to use clocks
because your data will be processed in the audio thread.

P.S.
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bisogno di ulteriore aiuto. Ciao.

>
> hi Luigi: i'm not that sure but maybe we have similar problems...
> i'm trying to read samples from 8 channels of a usb-card (NI DAQmx
> 6008i), in a callback method.
> Then i don't make use at all of MSP, but i have the need of using a
> custom control rate... i receive the suggestion of use clock and the
> defer (or defer_low) mechanism (if you read
>
https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=26931&start=0&rid=5771&S=1ee67e73279c30a011d05abe418d7784
> my topic maybe could be useful for your task too)
>
> i'm not that sure, but the second options could be fine, with the
> defer_low mechanism
>

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