Andrew Benson

Now that many of you have had time to download and do a little exploring the latest release, I'm curious to hear what parts of Max 7 are really doing it for you. We read all the threads and we always know what's not working. Here's your chance to tell us what is.

what-are-you-enjoying-in-max-7

I've been using max 7 since its release. I find really a great piece of work. Despite the positive criticism it aroused from the community (more in the direction of adjustments suggestions), the shift to a more friendly interface is really welcome. The overall usability and the growing documentation in a more accessible way makes the learning and programming experience more pleasant most of the time (without loosing the possibility of going deeper, opening the black boxes, grasping the code like in "gen", for instance). And just to be more specific, I could initially point the snippets. It made really easy to access my collection of modular solutions.

I've been using max 7 since its release. I find really a great piece of work. Despite the positive criticism it aroused from the community (more in the direction of adjustments suggestions), the shift to a more friendly interface is really welcome. The overall usability and the growing documentation in a more accessible way makes the learning and programming experience  more pleasant most of the time (without loosing the possibility of going deeper, opening the black boxes, grasping the code like in "gen", for instance). And just to be more specific, I could initially point the snippets. It made really easy  to access my collection of modular solutions.


Snippets and… just discovered typeroute~!

The whole GUI == fantastic. A huge improvement for my eyes.

[playlist~] is a great addition to the vocabulary. The ability to drop media files into patchers (e.g. drop an audio file onto buffers) is welcomed.

The File Browser, Collections and the potential of tags is huge.

Overall, great work C74. Thank you super much :)

[playlist~] is a great addition to the vocabulary.  The ability to drop media files into patchers (e.g. drop an audio file onto buffers) is welcomed.

Overall, great work C74.  Thank you super much :)


everything except for the the default color scheme !

although it is slightly confusing at first, i think the color schemes are great. often it was jarring to go from my 'themed' M4L patches to the bright white Max 6 patcher window.

i'm really enjoying the new look. its kind of a future-retro Max 4 look.

vst snapshots are awesome! I used to play around a lot with vsts in max but got tired of saving all my settings etc. This makes it easy so I'd expect to get back into that again. overall just making it easy to get to all the vst/au plugins will make a big difference in that regard.

i'm hoping the 'new snippets' will be as useful as they appear to be.

although it is slightly confusing at first, i think the color schemes are great. often it was jarring to go from my 'themed' M4L patches to the bright white Max 6 patcher window. 

i'm really enjoying the new look. its kind of a future-retro Max 4 look. 

i'm hoping the 'new snippets' will be as useful as they appear to be.


Seconding the snippets. Being able to share/access them online would be awesome.

The way patch chords are placed is a big improvement. I hardly need to replace objects to keep a good lay-out. This saves me a lot of time. Next to this I find Beap a BIG plus.

I'm not sure, but has the cable routing been improved? I'm finding it does a great job now.

My biggest joy right now is using the Surreal Machines mfl devices in patches. So good.

btw, did cycling tease a method for non-realtime timestretching and such?

In general the graphics is really more reactive and fast than Max 6.

I Love the playlist~ object with the possibility to see the waveform, even if it's not yet clear how to manage large soundfile collections (the graphical aspects for instance).

Will the playlist~ objet substitute the sfplay~/sflist~ objects in the cycling74 plans?

Would like to know if the playlist~ object uses a different and more secure way to load soundfiles than the "preload" in sflist~ and sflplay~, that give us many problems yet nowadays)

- previous patches are weak and difficult to read

- in the new patches all kind of objects are really uniform and difficult to distinguish.

- the absence of borders in number boxes, sliders menus, intlet-outlet, nsliders ecc. generates a lot of confusion.

It's true that you can change the color scheme BUT the system is not conceived for users who prefer dark text with a light background, because you have no borders. Just gives us back borders!

- all the live objets seem to play in a different movie! They simply don't fit in the new global graphic interface.

Will the playlist~ objet substitute the sfplay~/sflist~ objects in the cycling74 plans?
Would like to know if the playlist~ object uses a different and more secure way to load soundfiles than the "preload" in sflist~ and sflplay~, that give us many problems yet nowadays)

Don't love at all the interface:
- previous patches are weak and difficult to read
- in the new patches all kind of objects are really uniform and difficult to distinguish.
- the absence of borders in number boxes, sliders menus, intlet-outlet, nsliders ecc. generates a lot of confusion.
It's true that you can change the color scheme BUT the system is not conceived for users who prefer dark text with a light background, because you have no borders. Just gives us back borders!
- all the live objets seem to play in a different movie! They simply don't fit in the new global graphic interface.


I think there are many discoveries like that left for us. Someone should do a big project of "everything new in Max7", if that doesn't already exist.

Someone should do a big project of "everything new in Max7",

Yes I've not seen a list of all the new objects / functions. It would be useful for sure. For instance I saw something mentioned about new ways of creating connected objects on the forum somewhere.

My absolute favourite: new pitch and time manipulations, saving me disrupting detours via Other Applications... Other than that, I would not even know where to start praising, or what else to single out, there is just so much and I am still snowed under - with just one single exclusion from the list of high praise. It's a big one and it is causing me a lot of headaches over the coming months while I am migrating my tools to 7... but you don't want to hear about it in this thread ;) ...

I have a lot to critizize about max 7 (missing the dongle!, find the interface a bit overloaded, etc) but I didn't bother writing about it since I guess things might improve over time and I didn't customize max for know. What I really love and why I'm going to buy:

-The UI is WAY more reactive, I love that. It feels fast, that's soo important.

-because I teach it and have to be up to date :)

I have a lot to critizize about max 7 (missing the dongle!, find the interface a bit overloaded, etc) but I didn't bother writing about it since I guess things might improve over time and I didn't customize max for know. What I really love and why I'm going to buy:
-The UI is WAY more reactive, I love that. It feels fast, that's soo important.
-New Patching mechanisms
-snippets
-because I teach it and have to be up to date :)


I like the under the hood rewrite which results in faster code! (see the benchmark thread 

https://cycling74.com/forums/benchmarking-jitters-cpugpu-performance-on-your-computer/?reply_id=309398)

Faster UI while coding, especially very welcome on retina macbook pro's!

Resume after a crash. What a life saver that would have been in the past!

Related:Going back in time on what you worked on.

The UI of the canvas I also like very much: it feels like the tools are all there. More actions are integrated in the work flow, like creating snipplets. Great!

Looking forward to try out the new AVF engine on Mac

I have the feeling some deep thinking has gone into MAX7, that have resulted in some streamlined and updated fundaments but also a better front end.

(I also think it's just some minor things like the colorscheme/ readability that have gone a bit too far ;) )

Really amazed with the overall results, congrats with the release!

I like the under the hood rewrite which results in faster code! (see the benchmark thread https://cycling74.com/forums/benchmarking-jitters-cpugpu-performance-on-your-computer/?reply_id=309398)

Resume after a crash. What a life saver that would have been in the past!
Related:Going back in time on what you worked on.

I have the feeling some deep thinking has gone into MAX7, that have resulted in some streamlined and updated fundaments but also a better front end. 

Really amazed with the overall results, congrats with the release!


I would love to be able to use my iLok instead of wondering whether the (awesome so far, understand the 180 day thing) activation will die on my airgapped machines.

Just realized the topic of the thread is what are you enjoying!

Time and pitch, the new interface, and the how you only need to bring patch cables into the vicinity of their destination for them to connect! Cool.

"Max7 M4L Presentation.maxpat" is pretty damned awesome.

>Just realized the topic of the thread is what are you enjoying!

heehehehe, seems like that's difficult to see for a lot of people :)

>Just realized the topic of the thread is what are you enjoying!
heehehehe, seems like that's difficult to see for a lot of people :)


The new note of monthly expenses, stuck to the refrigerator. Max, Netflix etc...

More fluid interface(0 clicks)
Dirac~ things
JS things
The new note of monthly expenses, stuck to the refrigerator. Max, Netflix etc...


As only a year long user, I do feel M7 offers an easier way to discover, find, learn, and assess details about the language. Frankly all the improvements are positive in my opinion. Many details of the old Max were not sacred to me so I'm generally pretty flexible on all of this.

As only a year long user, I do feel M7 offers an easier way to discover, find, learn, and assess details about the language. Frankly all the improvements are positive in my opinion.  Many details of the old Max were not sacred to me so I'm generally pretty flexible on all of this.


Fairly new user here, an Ableton user since V2. After a few years dabbling (poorly) with Max for Live I took advantage of the recent crossgrade deal and free Max 7 upgrade.

So what do I like about Max 7? I think it's good to see a company this mature have the guts to head in a clear, fresh direction and at the same time do a rewrite to streamline performance, that bodes well for future longevity. I like that Max for Live has 'cross pollinated' back towards Max and that we can use full M4L devices n patches now. Dub Machines in Max! :)

I really am essentially a total noob, a guitar player wanting to free myself from a timeline and eventually create a live setup utilizing granulation and algorithmic processes to back up live improvisation. I'm a VERY long way from approaching even how to start planning such a thing, but I'm certain this is the right path.

The Gui argument is interesting, gui changes are always tough on people used to working with a tool set for a long time. I'm not particularly keen on light text on a dark background but I have to assume these decisions have been done for good reason, so I'm going to work with the default settings and see how I get on. I have lots of learning to do!

I really am essentially a total noob, a guitar player wanting to free myself from a timeline and eventually create a live setup utilizing granulation and algorithmic processes to back up live improvisation. I'm a VERY long way from approaching even how to start planning such a thing, but I'm certain this is the right path. 

The Gui argument is interesting, gui changes are always tough on people used to working with a tool set for a long time. I'm not particularly keen on light text on a dark background but I have to assume these decisions have been done for good reason, so I'm going to work with the default settings and see how I get on. I have lots of learning to do!


Dat wire wiggle - http://i.imgur.com/PeQHm1J.gif


one of the most exciting new features is ... that you can edit in the free runtime.

that will get rid of the requirement of multiple licenses for a quick test of ones networked apps, or allows you to correct small bugs in your runtime-targeted patches on the fly.

in addition this is the perfect demo version for new users to try out if they like max for as long as they need.

max 7 also seem to have included another website update. the forum now can be used using safari 4. it looks terrible - but at least it works. during the last 18 months, the forums only worked in safari 3 and safari 5. ;)

+1 for amxd~! Was running a sound/light installation on a theatre stage yesterday. very limited stage time to prepare and had only access to the production sound system the same day. I wasn't quite satisfied how the speakers displayed the sound: a few amxd~ with 32 band eqs plunged in and fixed everything.within 10 min!!!

autosnap to connect. big thank you to the person that wrote the algorithm! :) i'm hardly ever actually dragging the cable all the way to the inputs or outputs anymore.

the patching mechanics shift + shortcuts for inserting between 2 things that are already connected. option and the arrows to get at the patch cords too.

between these i basically have to update because now i can patch all day without my hand cramping up. :)

z/shift+z. i don't really believe in sub patching until i'm done using a patch so being able to zoom more fluidly while patching is great. (and i've always run into trouble trying to edit the interface json to change the shortcuts) max as a whole feels more 2 handed now, which makes it feel more "real" to me.

being able to connect to a "bogus" object. it doesn't really make any sense, but for whatever reason it helps me stay more organized, do less re-arranging, and stay on track not having to set what some of the objects are 1st. (probably because the main objects i'm going to use are the easiest thing to remember, but the what and how i want to get down more quickly and usually in the process of setting up what i want to do i figure something better out anyway. :) )

btw has anyone been able to modulate the time of the post patch cord connection cable wiggle? lol

autosnap to connect. big thank you to the person that wrote the algorithm! :) i'm hardly ever actually dragging the cable all the way to the inputs or outputs anymore. 

btw has anyone been able to modulate the time of the post patch cord connection cable wiggle? lol


I have arrived with the following listed literary-poop, specially handcrafted by the greatest artisan of asswipery(me) this side of the sewage system(the internet), for this specific thread and Cycling74:

-first off, i'm enjoying the coloring and UI choices fully. the way everything is an intuitive hieroglyphic(like a 'maxetta stone'!) around the patcher is brilliant and almost comforting. i've not flown an SR-71 spyplane before, but i bet this is what it feels like to slip into the cockpit and look at your victims through the HUD.

or better yet, it's a bit like a ninja's utility belt. i like that i can right-click and remove or add the elements, too... for even a ninja must loosen the belt after a meal or during meditation(i'm still trying to figure out how to erase the history of the calendar though, not just removed from the sidebar, for surely no ninja must leave traces like that(edit: and i fear, everytime i click the message to accept incoming network connections for max7, that you will or already are, collecting this information for your own research... but i am also a very paranoid-by-inflated-sense-of-self-importance kinda person :p )

-retune~ is amazing. i said it before, i'll say it again: for both retuning of live-audio input, as well as pitch-following, quantizing, etc. ...stretch~ and pitchshift~ sound nice, too, amazed how you integrated into groove~/sfplay~ as well... you've gone balls-to-the-wall on msp/dsp capabilities(special thanks to Stefan Brunner, if he was the one, for helping with all this Dirac stuff (additionally, congrats on your movie career, i've not seen many of these movies, but i'm sure your involvement in their production was brilliant:

-going along with the previous statement, and mentioned before in another thread, i love that the msp external i was building using the max6 SDK/C-API works perfectly in max7(buffer-locking mechanisms are proving safe and reliable). though i've had so much fun with gen~, i feel even your SDK is so clear and easy that i might as well stick with that for my needs, but in any case, it's clear with gen~, regular msp magic, and the SDK, all together, everything i've ever felt i need, in order to do what i want with audio, is now fully taken care of by Max7 :)

(don't get me wrong, i still like coding synths in supercollider, it feels very fluid, maybe if you include a supercollider object as a vanilla solution, i'll abandon it entirely, but at least i now consider you both equals in audio... there are additional advantages gained more quickly and easily in max now, like the Dirac stuff, or upsampling in a poly~, etc.... which make up for the way there is more concise fluidity to the coding style of sc(pros and cons of both environs are now extremely hard to weigh against each other) ...you are doing great good for high-quality audio)

but most of all, you guys have grown a knack for creating very good educational entry-points at all levels of this whole ...uh... 'media' thang.

-i don't like to put much text in my UI, so the color scheme you've got as default is the one i was gravitating towards as early as max5(used to be white-text over navy-blue, but then eventually slightly off-white over dark-grey has been my favorite for awhile... but never cared for borders either way, i just turn their alpha to 0 :p (8D)). (i'm also glad you didn't go overboard and instead left the documentation windows with black-paragraph-text on white(ish) background as well as the regular coding environs(js, jit.gl.lua, etc.) to remain looking more in style with modern coding IDEs... same as they were before... because the coding/education-reading stuff is easier when viewed that way... while objects and patches are different...)

i know you'll probably change the default-scheme eventually because, well, admittedly, in order to remain the most accessible to the majority of people in the world, you must cater 

 to people who wear glasses as the least common denominator to begin with. they get cranky more easily because their eyes are under more strain more often. so if this is not a color scheme that can relieve that, then it'll help you sell your product more to make it easier for them in particular(you achieve utmost accessibility by designing around the needs of the weaker because the stronger can survive and carry on no matter what).

but i don't wear glasses, and i don't give a fuck about those ol' four-eyed-cranky-gimps, so you have a special thanks from me for making at least one version of max look like the way it is now.

you've given people the possibility of quite a number of free gifts here...

you do realize of course, that within my trial i'm seeing how many patches i can create for ongoing use before it expires. i went straight to put sfrecord~ and additional compression/eq stuff into the helpfiles for stretch~, pitchshift~, and i'm working on something big right there within the helpfile of retune~. doing this real quick, i imagine i'll just have a bunch of free instruments/tools embedded right there within the helpfiles :p

(but don't worry! only testing to see how generous you were willing to risk getting. i will pay for an upgrade like i always do...(uh... soon as i shift some debt somehow *nervous laughter*). it's not even a loyalty thing, god forbid people should think of me as resident-asskisser rather than resident-asswipe, but merely the sad fact that you seem to be peddling the kinda crack i really jonez for >8D)

-jit.world - NO SERIOUS: WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS OBJECT? THEY DESERVE THE UTMOST CREDIT!

is that Rob Ramirez? amazing. Max7's got quite a different UI, some people will love it(me), some people will hate it(everyone else), but jit.world is proof that c74 is thinking about 'interface' on a much deeper and future-looking level than any of us users ever could. (i'm not even a 'video person', it was always just a nice fun addition to the environment to me, but now, i'm sure to become one)

 the bouncy patch cables, they are very cute(children will probably be attracted by that).

and to group the mixed compliments more together, although i'm not psyched about the fact that you force the 'arrow' of umenu among other things on us now(i even tried sending 'arrow 0' just in case you hid the message from us... but no :p), i do notice that many UI objects have a new 'js painter file' thingie in its inspector... i look forward to reading more documentation on this, sounds like a great place for customization.

in particular, i'd love to finally achieve my dream of having a 'toggle' with a skull-and-crossbones instead of the usual 'x'. (the bones would go white when off and black with white-outline when on to be all subversively counterintuitive with the darker color meaning 'on', yesszzzz excellent! muahahaha- *whimper* i have no life)

so ya, looking forward to learning more about the js painter file option... you can see it'd be perfect to go along with the new 'whitey' theme i've created for Max7:

edit: ah, i c some explanation here already: 

https://cycling74.com/forums/borderline-color/

-and finally, what am i enjoying most? as you can see in the pic, i figured out how to work jit.gl.lua into jit.world right away (the 'init' subpatcher there is simply a 'loadmess getdrawto' going into jit.world, while a 'routepass drawto' comes out of it and goes to jit.gl.lua to setup the proper drawing context...)... and like that, the world was mine! muahahahahahaaaa! HAHAHAHAHAAAmuahahahahahaaa *cough* *wheeeeze* *cough* HA!

(no seriously, though, i never liked doing this openGL3D shit object-by-object in the max/visual environment, seems really counter-intuitive/tedious to me personally ;p, so having jit.world and jit.gl.lua work together is a big deal for me(i know jit.gl.lua was there from before...and i've not tested everything there, but so far so good... and the mix of jit.world convenience with a fluid/concise coding language is very exciting!)...) Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!

-first off, i'm enjoying the coloring and UI choices fully. the way everything is an intuitive hieroglyphic(like a 'maxetta stone'!) around the patcher is brilliant and almost comforting. i've not flown an SR-71 spyplane before, but i bet this is what it feels like to slip into the cockpit and look at your victims through the HUD.
or better yet, it's a bit like a ninja's utility belt. i like that i can right-click and remove or add the elements, too... for even a ninja must loosen the belt after a meal or during meditation(i'm still trying to figure out how to erase the history of the calendar though, not just removed from the sidebar, for surely no ninja must leave traces like that(edit: and i fear, everytime i click the message to accept incoming network connections for max7, that you will or already are, collecting this information for your own research... but i am also a very paranoid-by-inflated-sense-of-self-importance kinda person :p )

-retune~ is amazing. i said it before, i'll say it again: for both retuning of live-audio input, as well as pitch-following, quantizing, etc. ...stretch~ and pitchshift~ sound nice, too, amazed how you integrated into groove~/sfplay~ as well... you've gone balls-to-the-wall on msp/dsp capabilities(special thanks to Stefan Brunner, if he was the one, for helping with all this Dirac stuff (additionally, congrats on your movie career, i've not seen many of these movies, but i'm sure your involvement in their production was brilliant:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1528887/  >;D))

-going along with the previous statement, and mentioned before in another thread, i love that the msp external i was building using the max6 SDK/C-API works perfectly in max7(buffer-locking mechanisms are proving safe and reliable). though i've had so much fun with gen~, i feel even your SDK is so clear and easy that i might as well stick with that for my needs, but in any case, it's clear with gen~, regular msp magic, and the SDK, all together, everything i've ever felt i need, in order to do what i want with audio, is now fully taken care of by Max7 :)
(don't get me wrong, i still like coding synths in supercollider, it feels very fluid, maybe if you include a supercollider object as a vanilla solution, i'll abandon it entirely, but at least i now consider you both equals in audio... there are additional advantages gained more quickly and easily in max now, like the Dirac stuff, or upsampling in a poly~, etc.... which make up for the way there is more concise fluidity to the coding style of sc(pros and cons of both environs are now extremely hard to weigh against each other) ...you are doing great good for high-quality audio)
but most of all, you guys have grown a knack for creating very good educational entry-points at all levels of this whole ...uh... 'media' thang.

-i don't like to put much text in my UI, so the color scheme you've got as default is the one i was gravitating towards as early as max5(used to be white-text over navy-blue, but then eventually slightly off-white over dark-grey has been my favorite for awhile... but never cared for borders either way, i just turn their alpha to 0 :p (8D)). (i'm also glad you didn't go overboard and instead left the documentation windows with black-paragraph-text on white(ish) background as well as the regular coding environs(js, jit.gl.lua, etc.) to remain looking more in style with modern coding IDEs... same as they were before... because the coding/education-reading stuff is easier when viewed that way... while objects and patches are different...)
i know you'll probably change the default-scheme eventually because, well, admittedly, in order to remain the most accessible to the majority of people in the world, you must cater most to people who wear glasses as the least common denominator to begin with. they get cranky more easily because their eyes are under more strain more often. so if this is not a color scheme that can relieve that, then it'll help you sell your product more to make it easier for them in particular(you achieve utmost accessibility by designing around the needs of the weaker because the stronger can survive and carry on no matter what).
but i don't wear glasses, and i don't give a fuck about those ol' four-eyed-cranky-gimps, so you have a special thanks from me for making at least one version of max look like the way it is now.

you've given people the possibility of quite a number of free gifts here...
you do realize of course, that within my trial i'm seeing how many patches i can create for ongoing use before it expires. i went straight to put sfrecord~ and additional compression/eq stuff into the helpfiles for stretch~, pitchshift~, and i'm working on something big right there within the helpfile of retune~. doing this real quick, i imagine i'll just have a bunch of free instruments/tools embedded right there within the helpfiles :p
(but don't worry! only testing to see how generous you were willing to risk getting. i will pay for an upgrade like i always do...(uh... soon as i shift some debt somehow *nervous laughter*). it's not even a loyalty thing, god forbid people should think of me as resident-asskisser rather than resident-asswipe, but merely the sad fact that you seem to be peddling the kinda crack i really jonez for >8D)

-jit.world - NO SERIOUS: WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS OBJECT? THEY DESERVE THE UTMOST CREDIT!
is that Rob Ramirez? amazing. Max7's got quite a different UI, some people will love it(me), some people will hate it(everyone else), but jit.world is proof that c74 is thinking about 'interface' on a much deeper and future-looking level than any of us users ever could. (i'm not even a 'video person', it was always just a nice fun addition to the environment to me, but now, i'm sure to become one)

-although i don't need the bouncy patch cables, they are very cute(children will probably be attracted by that).
and to group the mixed compliments more together, although i'm not psyched about the fact that you force the 'arrow' of umenu among other things on us now(i even tried sending 'arrow 0' just in case you hid the message from us... but no :p), i do notice that many UI objects have a new 'js painter file' thingie in its inspector... i look forward to reading more documentation on this, sounds like a great place for customization.

in particular, i'd love to finally achieve my dream of having a 'toggle' with a skull-and-crossbones instead of the usual 'x'. (the bones would go white when off and black with white-outline when on to be all subversively counterintuitive with the darker color meaning 'on', yesszzzz excellent! muahahaha- *whimper* i have no life)
so ya, looking forward to learning more about the js painter file option... you can see it'd be perfect to go along with the new 'whitey' theme i've created for Max7:

edit: ah, i c some explanation here already: https://cycling74.com/forums/borderline-color/

-and finally, what am i enjoying most? as you can see in the pic, i figured out how to work jit.gl.lua into jit.world right away (the 'init' subpatcher there is simply a 'loadmess getdrawto' going into jit.world, while a 'routepass drawto' comes out of it and goes to jit.gl.lua to setup the proper drawing context...)... and like that, the world was mine! muahahahahahaaaa! HAHAHAHAHAAAmuahahahahahaaa *cough* *wheeeeze* *cough* HA!
(no seriously, though, i never liked doing this openGL3D shit object-by-object in the max/visual environment, seems really counter-intuitive/tedious to me personally ;p, so having jit.world and jit.gl.lua work together is a big deal for me(i know jit.gl.lua was there from before...and i've not tested everything there, but so far so good... and the mix of jit.world convenience with a fluid/concise coding language is very exciting!)...) Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!


oh, and one last thing, worth a separate post on its own, the editing interface is faster and more responsive all around(as people have noticed, in connections, and other things... i even selected a large patch-spaghetti, dragged it all around... it looks like it handles changing refresh rates differently now, but maintains ease of dragging). nice work. you are yet again vindicated of the annoyingnesses from these old threadz:

https://cycling74.com/forums/constructive-rant-i-hope/

https://cycling74.com/forums/max-5-slow-edition/

(p.s. on that first thread, the anti-account 'livixuv'(named in reverse of the OP... see what i did there? see?! :p) is another one of me. years later, i have no idea what i meant anywhere there (don't remember the password either) :D (edit: also hilarious, that there i praise the 'people' page, but elsewhere years later on, i refer to it to joke about an all-white company >;D hehehehe... hey hey, don't get too upset, the ebb and flow of madness and asswipery must be kept in balance!(but hurry up and put Ginger's face on there, anyways, she's good! and it'd be such a nice win for the little people like me to see the proudly displayed diversity customary for bayarea companies ;D))... anyways, memories...)

You don’t have Gwen Steffani’s producer talking about how great Max is…

HAHAHAHAHAHA! still funny after all these years...

 talked about by Gwen Stefani's producer either ;D

oh, and one last thing, worth a separate post on its own, the editing interface is faster and more responsive all around(as people have noticed, in connections, and other things... i even selected a large patch-spaghetti, dragged it all around... it looks like it handles changing refresh rates differently now, but maintains ease of dragging). nice work. you are yet again vindicated of the annoyingnesses from these old threadz:
https://cycling74.com/forums/constructive-rant-i-hope/
https://cycling74.com/forums/max-5-slow-edition/

 You don’t have Gwen Steffani’s producer talking about how great Max is… 

HAHAHAHAHAHA! still funny after all these years...'the revolution will not be' talked about by Gwen Stefani's producer either ;D


Just thought I'd stop by and say 'include' in JS is awesome! Now I can split my code up into separate files and avoid getting lost in the scroll. Thank you thank you thank you!

Ok, so it took me a week to get it but I am now totally into the new UI. I am an old timer with dodgy spec correcting eyesight but for me the default display mode is crystal clear and super sexy...What else? The stretch~ and retune~ objects, the new browser, toolbars, max4live compatibility, all big pluses for me, nice one C74!

I'm really liking the crash restore. It's really helped stop the rage quits as I'm still learning the basics.

The calendar is proving to be pretty nifty little tool. It would be good though if the user could select items for removal. Or even just a tick box for saying yes or no to include internal patches.

That the Max7-scheduler uses nearly no CPU when at idle is much better for the battery-life. Thanks!

And I like the improved motion-based inlet detection algorithm while patching (with the little bright touch-points).

yeah, now that i've been using it long enough, i'm loving the calendar. it's the best software note taking/diary/to do list i've used because you can actually use and do stuff with what's there in the same environment, so it's the only one i've been able to stick with using! :) the only thing i've used as useful as paper - but in a different way. :)

is there anyway to get at the guts of it though? :) i'd really like to add a global, monthyly + yearly index. i'd use these overviews to diagram/link relationships and add tags/metadata. i assume in a few months it'll get outa hand otherwise.

Thanks for the positive feedback about the calendar. This is a work in progress and we're interested to hear what would make it more useful. In the next update you'll be able to switch to a stream view of your work. If you want to look at the calendar file it's in your preferences folder (use the Preferences window toolbar to open that folder) in a file called maxcalendar.json. There's absolutely no protection against corrupting the file, and there are a few bugs related to how dates are stored (also fixed in the next update), so it's kind of a mess at the moment. I'd be interested to hear more about what an index might do and/or look like.

What are you enjoying in Max 7?