Paul Riker

I've been looking around for a while, and I've only come across one external that interfaces the wiimote with MAX/MSP on Windows:

http://ether.tw/blog/2007/04/tkwii_ver20070428.html

This object "tk.wii" works well in the video. I've tried it here, on a fresh install of Max/MSP/Jitter, but I get the error 14001 message (which has cropped up on these forums before). I've tried the .NET update, but that's all so far.

1. Does anyone know what causes the 14001 error message?

2. Are there any other externals for pairing the wii remote (nunchucks too!) with Max/MSP?

I'm currently looking into GlovePIE/Bluesoleil options, but still hope that a nice external exists.

This object "tk.wii" works well in the video.  I've tried it here, on a fresh install of Max/MSP/Jitter, but I get the error 14001 message (which has cropped up on these forums before).  I've tried the .NET update, but that's all so far.

wii-external-for-windows-and-error-14001

I've used GlovePie on a few occasions, but would also like an external, if only to compare... GlovePie works fine but the datarate is poor; any quick movements appear as jumps in the position. I smooth these out with [slide] but I would like to know what element in the chain controls the datarate. The accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted to MIDI, etc.

The next step up costs around 10.5 times as much, but includes gyroscopes. I expect that the bottleneck lies in the Wiimote itself; because I can emulate the basic reactions necessary for Nintendo's Wii Games using GlovePie and MIDI is fast enough.

I've used GlovePie on a few occasions, but would also like an external, if only to compare... GlovePie works fine but the datarate is poor; any quick movements appear as jumps in the position.  I smooth these out with [slide] but I would like to know what element in the chain controls the datarate.  The accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted to MIDI, etc.
The next step up costs around 10.5 times as much, but includes gyroscopes.  I expect that the bottleneck lies in the Wiimote itself; because I can emulate the basic reactions necessary for Nintendo's Wii Games using GlovePie and MIDI is fast enough.


I have been asking about a Wii external for the PC for a 

while now. I think there was talk of porting the mac version 

to the windows but I am not sure if any progress has been made.

I think the tricky part is getting access to the bluetooth

device stack. I am using Blue Soleil and they do not have any 

kind of SDK. The question is hoe does GlovePIE do it?

Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Wii external for Windows? ..and Error 14001

> I've used GlovePie on a few occasions, but would also like an 

> external, if only to compare... GlovePie works fine but the 

> datarate is poor; any quick movements appear as jumps in the 

> position. I smooth these out with [slide] but I would like to 

> know what element in the chain controls the datarate. The 

> accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has 

> to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted 

> The next step up costs around 10.5 times as much, but includes 

> gyroscopes. I expect that the bottleneck lies in the Wiimote 

> itself; because I can emulate the basic reactions necessary for 

> Nintendo's Wii Games using GlovePie and MIDI is fast enough.

I have been asking about a Wii external for the PC for a 
while now. I think there was talk of porting the mac version 
to the windows but I am not sure if any progress has been made.
I think the tricky part is getting access to the bluetooth
device stack. I am using Blue Soleil and they do not have any 
kind of SDK. The question is hoe does GlovePIE do it?

----- Original Message -----
From: Dayton 
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2007 3:26 pm
Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Wii external for Windows? ..and Error 14001

>
> I've used GlovePie on a few occasions, but would also like an 
> external, if only to compare... GlovePie works fine but the 
> datarate is poor; any quick movements appear as jumps in the 
> position.  I smooth these out with [slide] but I would like to 
> know what element in the chain controls the datarate.  The 
> accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has 
> to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted 
> to MIDI, etc.
> The next step up costs around 10.5 times as much, but includes 
> gyroscopes.  I expect that the bottleneck lies in the Wiimote 
> itself; because I can emulate the basic reactions necessary for 
> Nintendo's Wii Games using GlovePie and MIDI is fast enough.
>


Quote: Dayton wrote on Wed, 02 May 2007 21:22

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The accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted to MIDI, etc.

Quote: Dayton wrote on Wed, 02 May 2007 21:22
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The accelerometer chip has a relatively high datarate, but it then has to be sent to the bluetooth adaptor, polled by GlovePie, converted to MIDI, etc.
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I'm having some success with GlovePIE. Actually, it looks like it's quite capable of being just the go-between I'm looking for. Of course, an external would be simpler, but in the mean time...

Good luck to all you wii hackers...this is very fun stuff.

I'm having some success with GlovePIE.  Actually, it looks like it's quite capable of being just the go-between I'm looking for.  Of course, an external would be simpler, but in the mean time...