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I'd like to have a message box (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) that gives in one click (-36 63 67 70 75 79 82 87 91 94 ). I tried to ue vexpr.

I'd like to have  a message box (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) that gives in one click (-36 63 67 70 75 79 82 87 91 94 ). I tried to ue vexpr.

working-with-vexpr-correct-syntax

Why use vexpr ?? just place all the values you want int0 coll and then get them out with an int.

vexpr is used to calculate equations on a list, what your asking is just a system of storing a list and recalling it later.

You can always post an example expression and I'm sure people can help you out.

Why use vexpr ?? just place all the values you want int0 coll and then get them out with an int.
eg inside coll
1, 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ;
2, -36 63 67 70 75 79 82 87 91 94 ;

vexpr is used to calculate equations on a list, what your asking is just a system of storing a list and recalling it later.
You can always post an example expression and I'm sure people can help you out.


The dict object is also very handy with this kind of thing as it lets you give values key names.

Thank you but this is not what I am to do, I would like to make a list of different midi pitches of a chord (...with different durations). Instead of having a list of random numbers from 0 to 10 for example, I would like a list of the different pitches of my chord. If vexpr cannot convert one list to another I would have to create it step by step.

My question doesn't concern for the moment how to insert a list into coll but to make the desiring list with a unfixed number of items and with a fixed variable.

So, the syntax in expr and vexpr (that suppose to be the same) are not fully explained for newbies like me.

BUT, I'm pondering on your answer, perhaps I'm far from comprehension.

Thank you but this is not what I am to do, I would like to make a list of different midi pitches of a chord (...with different durations). Instead of having a list of random numbers from 0 to 10 for example, I would like a list of the different pitches of my chord. If vexpr cannot convert one list to another I would have to create it step by step.
My question doesn't concern for the moment how to insert a list into coll but to make the desiring list with a unfixed number of items and with a fixed variable.
So, the syntax in expr and vexpr (that suppose to be the same) are not fully explained for newbies like me.

BUT, I'm pondering on your answer, perhaps I'm far from comprehension.


Here is my chord -36 63 67 70 75 79 82 87 91 94 (-36 represents a silence)

I want to have a list of hundreds of these notes randomly.

Hello, let's reformulate my question:
Here is my chord -36 63 67 70 75 79 82 87 91 94 (-36 represents a silence)
I want to have a list of hundreds of these notes randomly.
How to do ? (I'm on MaxMSP5)
Thank you


... I can make a list of random numbers and at the end, when the data is getting out, I convert each number into a specified pitch. I know there are solutions but I'm tormented of not having found the one with vexpr that seemed very promising.

... I can make a list of random numbers and at the end, when the data is getting out, I convert each number into a specified pitch. I know there are solutions but I'm tormented of not having found the one with vexpr that seemed very promising.
Any idea with the syntax ?
thank you


Hi.
I don't think this is a job for vexpr.
But - do you actually want a list...

Hi, thanks, the two solutions make the job.

But...(but) I was eager to have a list of more than 256 items that zl permits, the second patch is nonetheless flowing boundlessy.

Hi, thanks, the two solutions make the job.
But...(but) I was eager to have a list of more than 256 items that zl permits, the second patch is nonetheless flowing boundlessy.

Dude, having a look at the help files sometimes helps ;)

iirc, zl in Max 5 is limited to 4096 elements. Since Max 6, it has been 32767. If you want lists of virtually unlimited length, have a look at the bach library - www.bachproject.net

Dude, having a look at the help files sometimes helps ;)
[zl 4096 group] will do the trick.

Yup what Andrea says. You can type in the list size when you create the object eg.zl.group 2048. That object now has a limit of 2048. the default is 256.

(This is not written in my help file max 5.1.9)

"Unlike Max lists, bach lllls have no limit in size (except for your computer's memory! :-)

You're completely free to have lllls as long as you want!"

"Unlike Max lists, bach lllls have no limit in size (except for your computer's memory! :-)
You're completely free to have lllls as long as you want!"


you now you also know what you can do in case you ever need more than 32767 midi pitches at the same time. humh.

while i think that you really should use something else for this particular job, i agree with you that the expr helpfile is not very helful for starters. it is also not very helful to look up C++ or java tutorials covering expr.

maybe it is about time that we create an altenative help file? :)

when i got you right, what you originally wanted is something like

Sorry my Lord, this is impressive and thank you very much for the :

but I wanted a collection of the same ten numbers in a random order.

Sorry my Lord, this is impressive and thank you very much for the :
 [vexpr ($i1/$i1)*(random(-36\,127))]
but I wanted a collection of the same ten numbers in a random order.
Thanks for the improvement


zl lookup is very effective but if I'd like only a device to substitute elements of a list here is a patcher in the style of Emmanuel Jourdan with the coll object.

Zl.scramble or mxj list.permutations will both reorder lists. The Mxj version is nice in that it is deterministic.

Zl.scramble or mxj list.permutations will both reorder lists.  The Mxj version is nice in that it is deterministic.


oh, random order, now that is something completely different (the spanish inquisition!).

zl scramble does it in one step, if you need more flexibilty, a combination of random and zl nth will be your friends.

A list of numbers in a random order