Using Jitter live with MSP?


    Feb 16 2006 | 2:19 pm
    Hi All
    I searched around (probably not enough) but didn't find what I was looking for... is it possible to run a Max/MSP patch with say, 200 buffers and some effects AND have jitter outputting video on a 1 GHz powerbook? I'm considering upgrading to Jitter 1.5 from 1.2x and am looking for feedback.
    Thanks
    John

    • Feb 16 2006 | 5:54 pm
      well, I dont have a 100% answer for you (I really havent explored the
      MSP land unfortunately..), but if you use GL you will save the CPU
      from dealing with more stuff from jitter.
      but the answer will really depend on how bad-ass your rig is.
      good luck!
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    • Feb 16 2006 | 6:06 pm
    • Feb 17 2006 | 4:16 pm
      Thanks for both your suggestions - realize the question is a bit vague... I think what I'm hoping to hear is that folks do use Max/MSP and Jitter together in performance situations and get adequate fps from Jitter. I'm usually using about 300Mb of sound samples plus some effects.
      Thanks for your time,
      John
    • Feb 17 2006 | 6:07 pm
      I'm perhaps too conservative, but I'd never do both on a
      single machine under those circumstances. Never.
    • Feb 17 2006 | 6:20 pm
      Thanks Gregory - from your mouth so to speak, that information means a lot!
      John
    • Feb 17 2006 | 6:25 pm
      well, if it's all you got, it sure is worth trying?
      p
    • Feb 17 2006 | 6:35 pm
      On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:20 PM, John Phillips wrote:
      >
      > Thanks Gregory - from your mouth so to speak, that information
      > means a lot!
      I wouldn't assume anything by this (save for the fact that I'm
      running a similar machine) other than that I REALLY prefer
      to play it safe. It might also not surprise you terrifically to
      discover that I shake my head in mute stupefaction at the
      occasional "Hi! I've got an important gig tonight and the new
      beta release of MSP isn't behaving as I expect it to. Help
      help help!" post when it appears here. SImilar stuff in play.
      Although I enjoy improvising, I prefer to restrict the zone in
      which I work, when I can.
      I should also point out that I've not done any real visual
      stuff since slabbing came along - it's true that using your
      GPU can really save the cycles, although I have no direct
      experience with the CPU savings for throbbing textured
      techno-torii. :-) Such video as I have done is like what I
      do with audio - it's simple and quiet and slow (and boring
      or "alus" (refined), depending on your point of view).
      The possible instructive dilemma that might result from trying
      to do both on the same machine is that it would be a great way
      to discover precisely how to optimize your particular patch (and
      I don't mean that there's only one way to do that). Lots of folks
      who work with max, in my experience, program right out there
      on the hairy edge of things [having perhaps arrived at the
      occasionally erroneous assumption that having lots of
      samples or a squillion processing options will mean you're
      a better performer] and never have the urge to correct it.
      Suddenly worrying about Jitter frame rates/whether to run
      in Overdrive or not/etc. might wonderfully focus the mind.
      In this case, I speak for myself alone - more isn't necessarily
      better.
    • Feb 17 2006 | 6:36 pm
      On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote:
      > well, if it's all you got, it sure is worth trying?
      Particularly if you're the sort of person who innovates
      well in the face of constraint.
    • Feb 17 2006 | 7:14 pm
      I would perhaps be less conservative, and recommend seeing what you come
      up with. I've been able to do quite a lot with a 1GHz powerbook, but it
      requires a lot of pruning.
      Sometimes such restraints can lead you to brilliant solutions.
      --
      AB
    • Feb 18 2006 | 12:06 am
      agreed.
      before the screen died on my Powerbook 800Mhz, id do all my
      development on it, which would force me to make things lean and mean,
      and run swift and nice on my 1.67Ghz ;)
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