Video Thumbnails


    Feb 09 2008 | 10:55 pm
    Hi everyone,
    New to the forum so be gentle! I'm working on a patch and I have spent all day trying to create a 'bin picker'.
    By this I mean I would like to open a file, and for the whole folder to be listed as a small thumbnail, not as text.
    I've looked at 'dropfile' but that only opens one file. 'Absolutepath' is just the file directory on you're HD. 'Relativepath' is kind of the same as above. 'Folder' is close but it lists the folder as text not as a preview..... (I have a feeling it has to do with this though!)
    I have posted on my usual forum (vjforums.com) and have been told two options from another user:-
    "The simple answer is that there isn't such a thing. You'd need to load each file, bang a frame out to a matrix, then composition that within a preview window (perhaps using the "lcd" object). Then, you'd need to define areas of the preview window for selection and association with that file, which you would then have it load. I suppose another way to do it would be to use the "poly~ for movies" example and load and have it load in your bank of films, then grab a frame from each and associate that frame with each movie. All fairly complex. I just don't have thumbnails."
    Is there any other way???
    Thank you in advance.
    skulpture

    • Feb 09 2008 | 11:10 pm
      check the [p prefix_settings] subpatch in ubumenu. but thats the least of your troubles. either wait for max5 (which looks like it has this covered) or script it with javascript. good luck. if your in a hoary, search the archives there was something like this mentioned. https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=search welcome
      On Feb 10, 2008 12:55 AM, Graham Thorne wrote:
      > > Hi everyone, > > New to the forum so be gentle! I'm working on a patch and I have spent all > day trying to create a 'bin picker'. > > By this I mean I would like to open a file, and for the whole folder to be > listed as a small thumbnail, not as text. > > I've looked at 'dropfile' but that only opens one file. > 'Absolutepath' is just the file directory on you're HD. > 'Relativepath' is kind of the same as above. > 'Folder' is close but it lists the folder as text not as a preview..... (I > have a feeling it has to do with this though!) > > I have posted on my usual forum (vjforums.com) and have been told two > options from another user:- > > "The simple answer is that there isn't such a thing. > You'd need to load each file, bang a frame out to a matrix, then > composition that within a preview window (perhaps using the "lcd" object). > Then, you'd need to define areas of the preview window for selection and > association with that file, which you would then have it load. I suppose > another way to do it would be to use the "poly~ for movies" example and load > and have it load in your bank of films, then grab a frame from each and > associate that frame with each movie. > All fairly complex. > I just don't have thumbnails." > > Is there any other way??? > > Thank you in advance. > > skulpture > > > > > -- > www.grahamthorne.co.uk >
    • Feb 09 2008 | 11:17 pm
    • Feb 09 2008 | 11:43 pm
      Thank you for all you're replies.
      I have done some more searching and found a patch that has been of some use. (see attached 'menu2') but as you will see it provides a thumbnail as you flick through the drop down menu, but not a thumbnail of each individual item in the list... does that make any sense?
      I am hoping Version 5.0 will have this feature, I am quite shocked it hasn't to be honest, more surprised perhaps that it hasn't been included in Jitter?
      Anyway... I really want to work at this because it seems a few people have posted questions for similar reasons as myself.
      Blue peter badge for the first person to do it! hehe
    • Feb 10 2008 | 2:11 am
      don't be shocked. makin stuff is what it's all about.
      i recommend looking at this post and downloading the m.poly_movie patch, and combining that with the thumbnail patch you found. http://tinyurl.com/25dtm4
      good luck -rob
    • Feb 10 2008 | 4:12 am
      Hi Graham,
      I believe this (https://cycling74.com/pipermail/jitter/2006-May/002369.html ) might be the thread that was referred to. I've also pasted it below in case the old list archive flakes out.
      This sort of thing is totally doable, and not all that hard once you chunk the problem up into bite-size pieces. If you're better with procedural code, it would probably be more efficient to do it in javascript as Yair suggested.
      As to your expecting this to be a built-in feature of Jitter, well...if you want a polished app, get VDMX. Max/MSP/Jitter is many things, but it is not a dedicated VJ app. :-|
      Begin forwarded message: > From: vade > Date: May 19, 2006 2:04:44 AM EDT > Subject: Re: [jitter] video playback graphical interface? a la grid > > note I have a subtle bug in the patch I posted which I didnt catch > in testing it. > > togedge only reports *transitions* between one and 0, and im using > it to help with reporting whether or not a number is larger than, or > smaller than [> 5]. So, we can potentially get two 1s in a row or > two 0's in a row (or more). togedge wont output anything in those > cases. bad mojo. > > replace togedge with [sel 1 0] and all will be well in the cosmos. > > v a d e // > > www.vade.info > abstrakt.vade.info >
      Begin forwarded message: > From: vade > Date: May 19, 2006 12:14:52 AM EDT > Subject: Re: [jitter] video playback graphical interface? a la grid > > Hi. > > Grid Pro and Grid are Max based apps, so its definitely possible. In > fact, it isnt too hard. max here is a very un-optimal implementation > - something to get you started. > > you should be thinking in terms of abstractions (hint, make the > pwindows into abstractions and use # 1 for the index the pwindow > will trigger), etc etc. > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 21 44 904 767; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 4; > #P comment 422 568 80 196617 we have the same ubumenu as above... > same indices; > #P window linecount 3; > #P comment 315 262 80 196617 iterate through the ubumenus indices; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 180 575 60 196617 loadmess 1; > #P message 66 268 34 196617 reset; > #P newex 81 332 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 219 332 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 353 332 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 487 332 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 621 332 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 154 142 51 196617 tosymbol; > #P newex 66 248 42 196617 r reset; > #P newex 329 181 42 196617 s reset; > #P message 328 163 30 196617 bang; > #P message 294 220 14 196617 1; > #P message 276 220 14 196617 0; > #P newex 260 200 44 196617 togedge; > #P user jit.fpsgui 347 655 60 196617 0; > #P message 610 352 57 196617 clear , bang; > #P newex 593 332 27 196617 t l b; > #P newex 593 370 55 196617 jit.matrix; > #P message 476 352 57 196617 clear , bang; > #P newex 459 332 27 196617 t l b; > #P newex 459 370 55 196617 jit.matrix; > #P message 342 352 57 196617 clear , bang; > #P newex 325 332 27 196617 t l b; > #P newex 325 370 55 196617 jit.matrix; > #P message 208 353 57 196617 clear , bang; > #P newex 191 332 27 196617 t l b; > #P newex 191 371 55 196617 jit.matrix; > #P message 70 352 57 196617 clear , bang; > #P newex 53 332 27 196617 t l b; > #P newex 53 370 55 196617 jit.matrix; > #P message 304 163 14 196617 0; > #P newex 246 592 51 196617 qmetro 2; > #P toggle 246 575 15 0; > #P newex 347 592 68 196617 prepend read; > #P newex 347 635 179 196617 jit.window "Grid Amateur" @interp 1; > #P newex 347 613 63 196617 jit.qt.movie; > #P user ubumenu 302 572 100 196617 0 1 1 0; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#43D021.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#43D0C8.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460239.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460240.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460234.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460241.mov"; > #X add Tunnel2.mov; > #X prefix_set 0 1 tokyo:/Documents/Projects/Media/Cleaned/Personal/ > 2006.03.30/ 0; > #P newex 53 287 79 196617 jit.cycle 5; > #P message 53 206 76 196617 frame 10 , bang; > #P newex 53 229 125 196617 jit.qt.movie @autostart 0; > #P newex 150 206 68 196617 prepend read; > #P newex 154 163 30 196617 t b s; > #N counter; > #X flags 0 0; > #P newobj 228 287 66 196617 counter; > #P message 689 517 14 196617 4; > #P newex 689 497 41 196617 sel 0 1; > #P newex 663 477 131 196617 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; > #P newex 663 457 112 196617 route mouse mouseidle; > #P user jit.pwindow 592 389 82 62 0 1 1 0 1 0; > #P message 556 517 14 196617 3; > #P newex 555 497 41 196617 sel 0 1; > #P newex 529 477 131 196617 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; > #P newex 529 457 112 196617 route mouse mouseidle; > #P user jit.pwindow 458 389 82 62 0 1 1 0 1 0; > #P message 422 517 14 196617 2; > #P newex 421 497 41 196617 sel 0 1; > #P newex 395 477 131 196617 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; > #P newex 395 457 112 196617 route mouse mouseidle; > #P user jit.pwindow 324 389 82 62 0 1 1 0 1 0; > #P message 288 518 14 196617 1; > #P newex 287 498 41 196617 sel 0 1; > #P newex 261 478 131 196617 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; > #P newex 261 458 112 196617 route mouse mouseidle; > #P user jit.pwindow 190 390 82 62 0 1 1 0 1 0; > #P window linecount 2; > #P comment 315 218 80 196617 limit to 5 items or less; > #P window linecount 1; > #P message 260 220 14 196617 5; > #P newex 228 242 29 196617 gate; > #P newex 260 180 27 196617 > 5; > #P newex 228 265 40 196617 uzi; > #P number 227 161 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P newex 227 140 74 196617 route populate; > #P message 150 518 14 196617 0; > #P newex 149 498 41 196617 sel 0 1; > #P newex 123 478 131 196617 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; > #P newex 123 458 112 196617 route mouse mouseidle; > #P user ubumenu 137 121 100 196617 0 1 1 0; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#43D021.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#43D0C8.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460239.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460240.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460234.mov"; > #X add "Montreal Footage-Seq#460241.mov"; > #X add Tunnel2.mov; > #X prefix_set 0 1 tokyo:/Documents/Projects/Media/Cleaned/Personal/ > 2006.03.30/ 0; > #P newex 137 96 76 196617 prepend prefix; > #P user jit.pwindow 52 391 82 62 0 1 1 0 1 0; > #P window linecount 2; > #P comment 140 37 115 196617 drop a folder of movies on me...; > #P user dropfile 137 34 273 92 0; > #P user panel 137 34 136 58; > #X brgb 191 191 191; > #X frgb 0 0 0; > #X border 1; > #X rounded 0; > #X shadow 0; > #X done; > #P window linecount 1; > #P comment 656 371 203 196617 idle mouse reporting is on on the > pwindows; > #P window linecount 2; > #P comment 313 129 340 196617 # of items to parse through.. we will > only grab the first 5 as an example (only 5 pwindows).; > #P fasten 40 0 43 0 159 192 58 192; > #P fasten 41 0 42 0 155 226 58 226; > #P connect 43 0 42 0; > #P connect 80 0 44 0; > #P connect 42 0 44 0; > #P fasten 44 0 53 0 58 316 58 316; > #P connect 54 0 52 0; > #P connect 53 0 52 0; > #P connect 52 0 5 0; > #P connect 73 0 80 0; > #P connect 79 0 54 0; > #P connect 53 1 54 0; > #P connect 5 1 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 9 0; > #P connect 3 0 6 0; > #P connect 6 0 7 0; > #P fasten 39 0 7 0 233 306 483 306 483 124 483 117 142 117; > #P connect 9 2 10 0; > #P fasten 40 1 41 0 179 192 155 192; > #P connect 10 0 11 0; > #P connect 7 1 74 0; > #P connect 74 0 40 0; > #P fasten 44 1 56 0 71 316 196 316; > #P connect 56 0 55 0; > #P connect 57 0 55 0; > #P connect 55 0 19 0; > #P connect 78 0 57 0; > #P connect 56 1 57 0; > #P connect 7 2 12 0; > #P connect 12 0 13 0; > #P connect 69 0 16 0; > #P connect 70 0 16 0; > #P fasten 17 0 14 0 265 262 233 262; > #P connect 16 0 14 0; > #P connect 14 0 39 0; > #P fasten 81 0 49 0 185 594 242 594 242 570 251 570; > #P connect 49 0 50 0; > #P fasten 13 0 16 1 232 203 252 203; > #P fasten 51 0 39 2 309 285 261 285; > #P fasten 13 0 15 0 232 178 265 178; > #P connect 15 0 68 0; > #P connect 68 0 17 0; > #P connect 19 1 20 0; > #P connect 20 0 21 0; > #P connect 68 0 69 0; > #P fasten 16 0 39 4 233 262 289 262; > #P fasten 17 0 39 4 265 262 289 262; > #P connect 21 2 22 0; > #P connect 22 0 23 0; > #P connect 68 1 70 0; > #P fasten 6 0 45 0 142 117 9 117 9 561 307 561; > #P fasten 11 0 45 0 155 552 307 552; > #P fasten 23 0 45 0 293 552 307 552; > #P fasten 28 0 45 0 427 552 307 552; > #P fasten 33 0 45 0 561 552 307 552; > #P fasten 38 0 45 0 694 552 307 552; > #P fasten 12 0 51 0 232 159 309 159; > #P fasten 44 2 59 0 84 316 330 316; > #P connect 60 0 58 0; > #P connect 59 0 58 0; > #P connect 58 0 24 0; > #P fasten 12 0 71 0 232 158 333 158; > #P connect 71 0 72 0; > #P connect 77 0 60 0; > #P connect 59 1 60 0; > #P connect 45 1 48 0; > #P connect 48 0 46 0; > #P fasten 50 0 46 0 251 611 352 611; > #P connect 46 0 47 0; > #P connect 47 0 67 0; > #P connect 24 1 25 0; > #P connect 25 0 26 0; > #P connect 26 2 27 0; > #P connect 27 0 28 0; > #P fasten 44 3 62 0 97 316 464 316; > #P connect 62 0 61 0; > #P connect 63 0 61 0; > #P connect 61 0 29 0; > #P connect 76 0 63 0; > #P connect 62 1 63 0; > #P connect 29 1 30 0; > #P connect 30 0 31 0; > #P connect 31 2 32 0; > #P connect 32 0 33 0; > #P fasten 44 4 65 0 110 316 598 316; > #P connect 66 0 64 0; > #P connect 65 0 64 0; > #P connect 64 0 34 0; > #P connect 75 0 66 0; > #P connect 65 1 66 0; > #P connect 34 1 35 0; > #P connect 35 0 36 0; > #P connect 36 2 37 0; > #P connect 37 0 38 0; > #P pop; > > > > > v a d e // > > www.vade.info > abstrakt.vade.info > > > On May 18, 2006, at 9:28 PM, mark wrote: > >> >> hey all. i seem to remember in the archives there being posted some >> sort of graphical interface for video playback that used a sample >> frame from the video file as the visual placeholder for playback, >> much as i believe the grid family of software does. unfortunately i >> can't for the life of me find the magic search incantation to make >> it appear from the archives. are there any kind souls out there >> that can point me in the right direction? thanks! >> >> -mark >
    • Feb 10 2008 | 12:10 pm
      here is one
      just click the bang in upper left corner it'll ask for a folder , which should contain some movies or pictures i will load the thumbs and when you click on the thumbs it will load the movie in the jt.qt.movie at the righttop pwindow.
      -mj
    • Feb 10 2008 | 11:27 pm
      Thanks MJ!!!