vocoder challenge


    Jul 04 2008 | 10:59 pm
    Looking to build a better sounding vocoder than the one included already in the max/msp bundle (sorry homies, you did a great job, just craving for something "thicker" and more "robotic" sounding...more Beastie Boys "Intergalactic" vibe)
    below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am thinking of attempting.
    Any help will be much apprecited (or should i say pointers, cuz i RTFM every day). Thanks! -chuck

    • Jul 06 2008 | 9:07 am
      Chubb schrieb: > below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am > thinking of attempting. > > http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3
      This is not a vocoder sound, I guess its some sort of LPC (Linear Predictive Coding)... Look for text to speech conversion...
      Stefan
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    • Jul 06 2008 | 4:55 pm
      As Stephan pointed out, what i was looking for is not a vocoder sound. So, i must really give kudos to cycling for the vocoder sound (which i use). i am always looking to create really insane sounding vocal effects, hence the request to create a vocal induced LPC (linear predictive codiing). i love computers, but i would rather do the talking. Thanks for the help everyone! -chuck *for your own insanity and a better idea of what i do...hearing is believing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Me-UJH1WcQ
      ----- Original Message ---- From: Stefan Tiedje Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 5:07:10 AM Subject: Re: [maxmsp] vocoder challenge
      Chubb schrieb: > below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am > thinking of attempting. > > http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3
      This is not a vocoder sound, I guess its some sort of LPC (Linear Predictive Coding)... Look for text to speech conversion...
      Stefan
      -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
    • Jul 06 2008 | 5:52 pm
      Both the csound~ and rtcmix~ objects have LPC capabilities, but the analysis has to be done prior to the resynthesis.
      On Jul 6, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Chubb wrote:
      > As Stephan pointed out, what i was looking for is not a vocoder > sound. So, i must really give kudos to cycling for the vocoder > sound (which i use). i am always looking to create really insane > sounding vocal effects, hence the request to create a vocal induced > LPC (linear predictive codiing). i love computers, but i would > rather do the talking. Thanks for the help everyone! > -chuck > *for your own insanity and a better idea of what i do...hearing is > believing: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Me-UJH1WcQ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Stefan Tiedje > Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 5:07:10 AM > Subject: Re: [maxmsp] vocoder challenge > > Chubb schrieb: > > below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am > > thinking of attempting. > > > > http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3 > > This is not a vocoder sound, I guess its some sort of LPC (Linear > Predictive Coding)... Look for text to speech conversion... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > >
    • Jul 06 2008 | 7:28 pm
      Quote: Mr. Banshee wrote on Sat, 05 July 2008 00:59 ---------------------------------------------------- > Looking to build a better sounding vocoder than the one included already in the max/msp bundle (sorry homies, you did a great job, just craving for something "thicker" and more "robotic" sounding...more Beastie Boys "Intergalactic" vibe) > > below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am thinking of attempting. > > http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3 > > Any help will be much apprecited (or should i say pointers, cuz i RTFM every day). Thanks! > -chuck
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      This is not a vocoder. I think its the talking synth from FLAME:
      Make sure you check out the sound link!!!
      To recreate this kind of sound you need to build some fof synthesis engine using a filterbank. Search the forum for some examples.
    • Jul 06 2008 | 8:35 pm
      Sounds like formant synthesis to me - like the 'lil rubberheaded Mammy' in Zappa's Thingfish! There was a patch called Copacabana that someone posted here some time ago that used formant filters to make these sort of cute noises. It's pretty much a matter of using a pair (or more) of filters with characteristics that match the human vocal tract. Googling 'formant synthesis' or 'formant filters' should get you started. I have a patch lying around somewhere I could post (including one used to make sheep noises - don't ask, it's a Welsh thing...;-) Cheers roger
      On 06/07/2008 20:28, "danny de graan" wrote:
      > > > > Quote: Mr. Banshee wrote on Sat, 05 July 2008 00:59 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> Looking to build a better sounding vocoder than the one included already in >> the max/msp bundle (sorry homies, you did a great job, just craving for >> something "thicker" and more "robotic" sounding...more Beastie Boys >> "Intergalactic" vibe) >> >> below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i am thinking >> of attempting. >> >> http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3 >> >> Any help will be much apprecited (or should i say pointers, cuz i RTFM every >> day). Thanks! >> -chuck > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > This is not a vocoder. I think its the talking synth from FLAME: > > http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/start.htm > > Make sure you check out the sound link!!! > > To recreate this kind of sound you need to build some fof synthesis engine > using a filterbank. Search the forum for some examples. > -- > - Danny -
    • Jul 06 2008 | 9:48 pm
      Indeed that's classic fof stuff. I would take a look at the fof example patch that comes with the latest release of csound~ external. It was announced here only last week so you should be able to find it easily. And of course there is the external from IRCAM as well.
      Best Peiman
      On 6 Jul 2008, at 21:35, Roger Carruthers wrote:
      > Sounds like formant synthesis to me - like the 'lil rubberheaded > Mammy' in > Zappa's Thingfish! > There was a patch called Copacabana that someone posted here some > time ago > that used formant filters to make these sort of cute noises. It's > pretty > much a matter of using a pair (or more) of filters with > characteristics that > match the human vocal tract. Googling 'formant synthesis' or 'formant > filters' should get you started. I have a patch lying around > somewhere I > could post (including one used to make sheep noises - don't ask, > it's a > Welsh thing...;-) > Cheers > roger > > > On 06/07/2008 20:28, "danny de graan" wrote: > >> >> >> >> Quote: Mr. Banshee wrote on Sat, 05 July 2008 00:59 >> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Looking to build a better sounding vocoder than the one included >>> already in >>> the max/msp bundle (sorry homies, you did a great job, just >>> craving for >>> something "thicker" and more "robotic" sounding...more Beastie Boys >>> "Intergalactic" vibe) >>> >>> below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i >>> am thinking >>> of attempting. >>> >>> http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3 >>> >>> Any help will be much apprecited (or should i say pointers, cuz i >>> RTFM every >>> day). Thanks! >>> -chuck >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> This is not a vocoder. I think its the talking synth from FLAME: >> >> http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/start.htm >> >> Make sure you check out the sound link!!! >> >> To recreate this kind of sound you need to build some fof >> synthesis engine >> using a filterbank. Search the forum for some examples. >> -- >> - Danny - > >
    • May 10 2009 | 4:36 am
      peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Sun, 06 July 2008 15:48Indeed that's classic fof stuff. I would take a look at the fof example patch that comes with the latest release of csound~ external. It was announced here only last week so you should be able to find it easily. And of course there is the external from IRCAM as well.
      Best Peiman
      On 6 Jul 2008, at 21:35, Roger Carruthers wrote:
      > Sounds like formant synthesis to me - like the 'lil rubberheaded > Mammy' in > Zappa's Thingfish! > There was a patch called Copacabana that someone posted here some > time ago > that used formant filters to make these sort of cute noises. It's > pretty > much a matter of using a pair (or more) of filters with > characteristics that > match the human vocal tract. Googling 'formant synthesis' or 'formant > filters' should get you started. I have a patch lying around > somewhere I > could post (including one used to make sheep noises - don't ask, > it's a > Welsh thing... > Cheers > roger > > > On 06/07/2008 20:28, "danny de graan" <info@dannydegraan.nl> wrote: > >> >> >> >> Quote: Mr. Banshee wrote on Sat, 05 July 2008 00:59 >> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Looking to build a better sounding vocoder than the one included >>> already in >>> the max/msp bundle (sorry homies, you did a great job, just >>> craving for >>> something "thicker" and more "robotic" sounding...more Beastie Boys >>> "Intergalactic" vibe) >>> >>> below is a link to some mp3 i found, that comes close to what i >>> am thinking >>> of attempting. >>> >>>http://www.shelaq.de/talking_synth/sounds/sample03.mp3 >>> >>> Any help will be much apprecited (or should i say pointers, cuz i >>> RTFM every >>> day). Thanks! >>> -chuck >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> This is not a vocoder. I think its the talking synth from FLAME: >> >>http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/start.htm >> >> Make sure you check out the sound link!!! >> >> To recreate this kind of sound you need to build some fof >> synthesis engine >> using a filterbank. Search the forum for some examples. >> -- >> - Danny - > >
      Cool sounding stuff!
      Is this possible with native msp objects?
    • May 10 2009 | 7:44 am
      marlon brando wrote on Sun, 10 May 2009 06:36 Cool sounding stuff! Is this possible with native msp objects?
      Not that I know... But third party externals are fine, enough flavors to choose from. I'd take something which works on Mac and PC if you want it cross platform...
      Stefan
    • Jan 24 2010 | 5:50 pm
      Thanks, but I prefer reverse engineering patches build with native objects. It makes it easier to learn, me thinks
    • Jan 24 2010 | 7:47 pm
    • Jan 24 2010 | 8:29 pm
      I'd lay my money on this being LPC rather than vocoding, but it would appear that Mr. Garton's beaten me to it. His rtcmix~ object will do the LPC stuff jes' fine.
    • Jan 25 2010 | 12:38 am
      try [thicker~] or [phat~]