wiimote connection stability


    Apr 20 2008 | 2:34 pm
    Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a
    controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote's Bluetooth
    connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and 2nd gen
    Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth signal in
    the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason--it appears to
    have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed
    symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify during the
    limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask audience
    to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable level of
    reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the lab where
    we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of tightly
    packed equipment that could've very well caused similar connectivity issues,
    and yet has not done so.
    With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. Is
    this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae than MBPs?
    Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
    Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)
    Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
    Virginia Tech
    Dept. of Music - 0240
    Blacksburg, VA 24061
    (540) 231-6139
    (540) 231-5034 (fax)
    ico@vt.edu

    • Apr 20 2008 | 3:41 pm
      >Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a
      >controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote's Bluetooth
      >connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and 2nd gen
      >Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth signal in
      >the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason--it appears to
      >have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed
      >symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify during the
      >limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask audience
      >to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable level of
      >reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the lab where
      >we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of tightly
      >packed equipment that could've very well caused similar connectivity issues,
      >and yet has not done so.
      >
      >With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. Is
      >this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae than MBPs?
      I don't use the Wii myself, but in my ensemble 2 of the players do
      use them - one is even using 2 of them - and we never had this kind
      of problems
      the computers are all macs, mostly intel, but there are some PPC (the
      wii are synchronised to intel macs, running X.4.10 i belive)
      we once had a problem with the bluetooth on one of them, a macbook
      (non-pro) but it seems a b-tooth problem of some of those (thanks
      apple!) - it was easily solved with a b-tooth usb key.
      hope it helps (but i suspect it just adds to the mystery)
      best
      kasper
      --
      Kasper T. Toeplitz
      noise, composition, bass, computer
    • Apr 20 2008 | 5:37 pm
      What did you use for your Wiimote connection? I've tested the aka
      stuff, junxion and osculator. None of them is totally reliable, but
      osculator connections are the most stable.
      Best,
      Zip
      Op 20-apr-2008, om 16:34 heeft Ivica Ico Bukvic het volgende geschreven:
      > Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a
      > controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote's Bluetooth
      > connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and
      > 2nd gen
      > Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth
      > signal in
      > the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason--it
      > appears to
      > have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed
      > symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify
      > during the
      > limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask
      > audience
      > to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable
      > level of
      > reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the
      > lab where
      > we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of
      > tightly
      > packed equipment that could've very well caused similar
      > connectivity issues,
      > and yet has not done so.
      >
      > With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar
      > experiences. Is
      > this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae
      > than MBPs?
      >
      > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
      > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)
      > Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
      > Virginia Tech
      > Dept. of Music - 0240
      > Blacksburg, VA 24061
      > (540) 231-6139
      > (540) 231-5034 (fax)
      > ico@vt.edu
      > http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/
      >
      >
    • Apr 21 2008 | 1:12 am
      Aka stuff, but what made it more complex was the fact that we also used
      wireless webcam which apparently uses near the same frequency range like the
      Bluetooth standard, making one of the bluetooth dongles we tried using to
      boost signal result in wireless video signal corruption. We could not link
      the disconnection symptoms to camera usage, however.
      So, if I understand correctly all of the solutions currently available seem
      to be unstable in terms of maintaining connectivity?
      Many thanks for the feedback!
      Best wishes,
      Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
      Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)
      Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
      Virginia Tech
      Dept. of Music - 0240
      Blacksburg, VA 24061
      (540) 231-6139
      (540) 231-5034 (fax)
      ico@vt.edu
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
      > On Behalf Of Zip Boterbloem
      > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:37 PM
      > Subject: Re: [maxmsp] wiimote connection stability
      >
      > What did you use for your Wiimote connection? I've tested the aka
      > stuff, junxion and osculator. None of them is totally reliable, but
      > osculator connections are the most stable.
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Zip
      >
      > Op 20-apr-2008, om 16:34 heeft Ivica Ico Bukvic het volgende geschreven:
      >
      > > Last night we had a show where one of the numbers used Wiimote as a
      > > controller. What I discovered is that apparently Wiimote's Bluetooth
      > > connectivity with computer (in this case we tested it with 1st and
      > > 2nd gen
      > > Intel MBPs) is lost as soon as there are other competing Bluetooth
      > > signal in
      > > the vicinity (we are not even sure if this is the core reason--it
      > > appears to
      > > have been the only logical parallel we could draw between the observed
      > > symptoms and environmental variables we could easily quantify
      > > during the
      > > limited time we had for troubleshooting). We literally had to ask
      > > audience
      > > to shut off their cell phones completely to attain a reasonable
      > > level of
      > > reliability. On the other hand, I had no problems with this in the
      > > lab where
      > > we used an iMac (first gen Intel) and yet where we have tons of
      > > tightly
      > > packed equipment that could've very well caused similar
      > > connectivity issues,
      > > and yet has not done so.
      > >
      > > With all that in mind, I was wondering if anyone had similar
      > > experiences. Is
      > > this perhaps because iMacs may have stronger Bluetooth antennae
      > > than MBPs?
      > >
      > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
      > > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI, CS and Art (by courtesy)
      > > Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
      > > Virginia Tech
      > > Dept. of Music - 0240
      > > Blacksburg, VA 24061
      > > (540) 231-6139
      > > (540) 231-5034 (fax)
      > > ico@vt.edu
      > > http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/
      > >
      > >
      >
    • Jul 06 2008 | 12:05 am
      can anyone confirm that using a USB bluetooth key improves the reliability of wii connections on intel macs (macbook pro in particular)? I am having a lot of connection problems with the aka object, almost unusable, and osculator looks promising and perhaps has better connection stability but my first experiments with it crashed max. I'm using max5, any thoughts would be much appreciated,
      Kevin