Feature Request: Move the tutorial patches back into Max for ease of use.

Notam Notam's icon

Hi,

I rarely use the tutorials in my own works, but use them a lot to help beginner Max users understand new concepts.

In Max 9 the Tutorials have been moved online. This is a problem if you work offline. But what is worse is that the tutorial patches have been moved. Inside the tutorials you must select "Download Series Assets", and then unzip "Max Tutorials.zip". Inside the tutorials, it says which patch to use. For instance in "Tutorial 1: Hello", it says "This tutorial references the patcher 01mHello.maxpat". You then go to the folder that you downloaded, search for "01mHello.maxpat", and open that patch.

In Max 8 you just press "Open Tutorial" inside Max, and the patch opens.

Is it possible for Cycling74 to move the tutorial patches back into Max for ease of use?

👽'tW∆s ∆lienz👽's icon

oh wow, just noticed this.

The tutorials are essential for when people want to go from just a YouTube browsing level of knowledge about these tools, to a masterful practice with these tools(therefore, quick and direct access to the patches right there within the environment is essential to the fluidity with which one obtains mastery at that practice).

I agree with the OP, NOTAM NOTAM, and think Cycling74 should seriously reconsider this decision.

we can evolve faster if developers go more in the direction of creating an immersive learning experience right there within the environment, rather than splitting it up into compartmentalized experiences; software-development likes it this way: creating templates and classes and compartmentalizing everything, but artistry and humanity requires something of a compromised approach to make it more personal/individualized. (sorry to speak so passionately, i leave it at that)

Exit Only's icon

i agree. I mentioned this in the discord as well. When I was first learning Max, having the tutorial patches built in was really something special. It contributed a lot to the flow of learning. I've been kind of hoping that this is just a temporary thing that was required to get Max 9 out the door with the new documentation and maybe they're working on bringing it back in. I have no proof of this though.

Oni Shogun's icon

Thank you for posting.
I agree 100% to the above mentioned points and honestly do struggle with large portions of the references having been moved online as well since I mostly work (and would prefer to work) offline.

Amid a ubiquitous transgression into clouds I would be very, very grateful if at least Max could stay local. I am expecting one of the next upgrades to announce that Max has gone entirely online!.…

Please, I implore you — the fantastic makers and developers of this application — to seriously consider the multitude of advantages when working independently, and offline, as well as the disadvantages for users. Besides, I don't have internet everywhere I go and I am quite happy to keep it this way.

Thank you for considering and again, for posting.