Sample "Round Robin" in Ableton

Daniel Semmelrock's icon

Hello,

drummer and Max4Live noob here.

I'm trying to figure out how to loop a sequence of samples (Round Robin) playing a single MIDI drum pad repeatedly.

I also need to be able to reset the sequence via another Drum Pad (MIDI mapped) so next time I hit the other pad the sequence starts on the first sample again.

So far, I found 3 different methods of achieving that effect (almost) in Ableton:

  1. using the new round robin feature of Sampler in Ableton 12.
    - Problem: there is no way to reset the sequence via MIDI mapping.

  2. using the "random" MIDI effect in sequence mode in Ableton and a Drum Rack
    - Problem: there is no way to reset the sequence at all, you would have to cycle through all samples to end up at the beginning again. Also there is a limit of 24 Samples (or "choices"), I need at least 32.

  3. Using the

    Max4Live device "AdRoRob" by "Shad4Live".

    https://gumroad.com/shad4live


    - This method works best so far, since the device has a reset button built in. However it is not MIDI mappable which is a shame, because other than that it works great.

Problem: none of these methods allow to reset the sequence via MIDI mapping.


Unfortunately I don't know Max4Live, to fix this myself.

Maybe someone here can help me achieve the desired effect :)

Daniel

Source Audio's icon

it can be as simple as to set 4 things:

1- input note number to play samples

2- start note

3 - number of samples in the sequence

4- mappable reset button

and auto-reset timout

that would work in case you use chromatic note sequence,

otherwise one would have to create list with seq notes

R-ROB.amxd
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Daniel Semmelrock's icon

Thank you very much!

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't figure out how to map the reset button to MIDI??

However, the auto-reset works equally well for now :)

Source Audio's icon

I am not Live user and so maybe I placed a text button that can't be mapped ?

try this one with replaced live.textbutton

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David Hoogerheide's icon

Hi there!

Somehow this was the only device online that I found that did Round Robin the way I wanted to!
Amazing :)

Only thing that frustrated me was that it didn't save the settings of the device. So I made some not so elegant adjustments so parameters are stored when saving the live set. (I mainly just replaced all the number boxes with ableton live ones, which inherently are saved with the set)

This also means all the parameters can be automated or midi learned (also the reset button, which might come in handy for some people)

Ciao and thanks Source audio, saved my life! (Somehow the reset round robin in Ableton's sampler is just badly thought through)

R-ROB V4.amxd
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Roman Thilenius's icon

maybe this is the moment where you should consider to get max4live and roll your own?

since the [cycle] objects takes a reset message and can process list (about since 17 years now) this task should be a nobrainer (and even without it it is doable for a beginner.)

David Hoogerheide's icon

Do you mean me?