This depends entirely on your user interface design. I've used both approaches in the past. For example, when using miditype of controling samplers, I have an extra sampler which is automatically visible in other patches. Therefore there is no need to include it, and I can load several of them...

But if I do a performance, I prefer to load all I need in one go.

Stefan

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imo, it's best to have it all in a main patch, clearly organized and indentified (colors, fonts). Load the main patch, send the init infos, dble-click on any subpatches and reorganize the windows for your needs (note that max saves window dispositions).

btw, subpatches could not be outside a patch, they would be called patches in that case ;-)

f.e

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Ah ok thanks.

Was just checking as my subpatches (drums,synth) use alot of graphics etc and seems to eat up alot of my CPU power (P4 2.53, 1GB ram laptop). However when I have tested it in University it seemed alot quicker (Mac G5). So will have to give it a go there.

Will

you might want to check out mute~

i use it a lot on subpatches not currently in use to save cpu

btw are your patches available for download?

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Quote: don malone aka LoneMonad wrote on Wed, 17 May 2006 14:22 ---------------------------------------------------- > you might want to check out mute~

Yeh I am looking into mute~ for that purpose. My system is that I have the 2 other subpatches controlled by pcontrols to open them and close them. I am sending the subpatches audio outputs via send~ ... to my main patches mixer. If I use mute~ when I close the subpatches audio will still be sent out right?, until mute receives a 1 to mute. I could connect it so that when the fader on the mixer is at 0 then have it mute the subpatch.

> > btw > are your patches available for download? >

They will be. My deadline for this project is the 26th of May. I have it pretty much done apart from a couple of graphics and the task of putting all sub patches into one main patch.However I may want to tweak it a little more before I make it available.

Here is a screen shot of the drum machine patch. Well its background image anyway.

Will

mute~ doesn't care if the pwindow is open

also look at pass~ to insure noise does not escape from a muted patcher

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