Mr Niceguy

Hello.  Is there an algorithm that will scale the perceived loudness of a tone based upon the frequency?   For example, I would like to slide the output of a cycle~ object from the lowest to the highest possible frequencies, and have the perceived loudness of the super bass frequencies equal to the perceived loudness of the highest frequencies.  Thank you.

Hello.  Is there an algorithm that will scale the perceived loudness of a tone based upon the frequency?   For example, I would like to slid

scaling-perceived-loudness

Here you can find some functions. Didn't know myself, but the keyword is A-weighting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-weighting

don't blast your ears and your speakers...

https://cycling74.com/forums/equal-loudness-curves-implementation/


Hello.  The wikipedia link Johan posted is a bit over my head, but I think I should be able to use that in combination with the discussion from Bernd to figure this out.  I'll post my patch once I get this to work.  Thanks guys!

to get a clearer idea about the theory, you might have a look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour

and there is a lot of literature about this issue in the net.

The math is less challenging than it appears. A single expression sort of does it.

yeap. johan, your formula works quite nice.


is that F/M or R/D or is that 226:2003 already?


i am currently looking for the latter.

and btw., without any variables or constants for the base gain the formular seems pointless.


Scaling perceived loudness 

Daniel Craig

Hello
Since upgrading from 8.3.1 to 8.5.1 I have noticed a change in the behaviour of textedit.
Upon banging the object, the text output now adds a backslash before all apostrophes.

For example, in the following patch;   
Test.json "Test Sound" "" """    
becomes.  

Does anybody know how I might be able to stop this from happening?
I have messed around with the attributes with no luck.
Alternatively, is there a neat way to later on remove all backslashes?

TexteditExample.maxpat

Hello
Since upgrading from 8.3.1 to 8.5.1 I have noticed a change in the behaviour of textedit.
Upon banging the object, the text output ... 

text-edit-changed-behaviour-8-5-1

Text Edit changed behaviour 8.5.1

Niels

Hey I'm trying to build a simple clock so that I can run my max patches as well as eurorack in sync using the expert sleepers ES-9. 

So I've made this thing using the phasor object but when I patch it to Pams New Workout its really wonky.  What am I not getting?


Hey I'm trying to build a simple clock so that I can run my max patches as well as eurorack in sync using the expert sleepers ES-9. 

building-a-clock-for-eurorack-integration

What exactly do you need to output as a sync clock ?



I 24 D2442 Ppppq gatesnAIt should workAppaccording to the pama new wprkput manual it should be . . So im guessing gate signals that run from 0 to 1.  

I think a clock is just a unipolar signal, going from 0 to 1. So a saw wave with a DC offset would work too.

Building a Clock for Eurorack integration

moike

I am motion tracking a framesub with cv.jit.centroid and when I get list outputs when no motion takes place I am getting NANs. I'd like to find a way to remove these from my list so I am only receiving numbers which can then be used as X and Y coordinates or data for other things. Ideas?

removing-not-a-number-input-from-lists

If getting the NaN is a problem with your current patch and you can figure out the problem, fix the patch. Without a patch to look at, we're just playing 20 questions, though.


I uploaded the Patch, The problem area is where I am unpacking from cv.jit.centroid and receiving NANs. Ideally I'd just like to filter out the numbers and remove the NANs, because I don't think it is possible to not receive them from cv.jit.centroid. 

I am also a newb to Max so I couldn't figure it out, that's why I am posting.


fixing it would be best, but it should also be easy to filter it out:

iterate the list, route int float, group the list...


Take a look at the [bitsafe~] object. It outputs a 0 every time it receives a NaN input. It only works with signals, though, so if you are working with floats, you'll need to first convert them to signals.


Here's the method I use to remove things like nan and +/-inf when I need to, it might be useful to you.

I would really discourage you from using tosymbol/fromsymbol, which generates tons of symbols. Instead, you can use an interesting property of NaNs, they are never equal to NaNs. You can apply that to vexpr as well.

Hi from 11 years later!   That's awesome, EJ, but... inf == inf?

Removing 'Not A Number' Input from Lists

rob beattie

help needed on this, is it possible to have a toggle in a max application that can switch the assign midi map on/off, without running the max environment, kind of as standalone.

help needed on this, is it possible to have a toggle in a max application that can switch the assign midi map on/off, without running the ma

assign-midi-map-button-within-standalone-application

Hi Rob, have you solved this issue? Anyone here? Is there any key command to enable Max 8 Midi mapping functionality within Standalone and to save midi maps?

Found this https://cycling74.com/forums/max-8-standalone-applications-including-'assign-midi-key-map'-function 

Hello Ruslan, yeah I did, there is an object called [mappings], I just looked into the help file and it was pretty easy at the end of the day, but thanks for the link, I'll have a look, many thanks, regards.

assign midi map button within standalone application?

James Kogane

Trying to save an amxd and getting this from ableton . Not sure what to do

max-function-"showdialog"-returned-with-error-9999-internal-error

go this too, sometimes.
close, open again it is working but it is quite annoying.

It doesn't happen always but here is the process to "get" it:
- create a liveset
- import the default max for live audio fx device (same for all 3 max for live default device)
- open the max for live device
- try to save it... it gives this :

max function "showdialog" returned with error 9999: Internal Error

Shahab

First and foremost you guys rock, I've been using/learning from the community for a long time! Been working a lot with 3D cameras of various type in Max and recently got a hold of the newcomer Intel RealSense F200 and R200, unfortunately they are Windows based and I converted to Mac a while ago, still these two cameras forced me back to my PC and as it turned out at least the F200 is easy to use and comes with many end-user software to do most of the things that we've been doing with Kinect and Asus. OSCing the data from my PC to the Mac was my only working option so far and was wondering if anybody is working on a wrapper for Max, if so I will be gladly running tests. (hint: maybe Jean-Marc Pelletier or Dale Phurrough are thinking about another magical object by the name of jit.realsense?) Here is a single webpage with the drivers and SDK:

https://software.intel.com/en-us/realsense/devkit

intel-realsense-development

I briefly considered writing an object for it.  I did research into the number of people using it. So far, I haven't read about any significant number of people using it to justify the time/effort I would need to put into a quality release.
If you know instead that there is a large number of people using it, please do share with me so I can re-evaluate my previous choice.


Thanks for you reply Dale, the number of people using the tech is definitely not even remotely close to Kinect users, that is expected though knowing that the F200 recently became available to purchase (a note to friends reading this, please pay attention to the specified range of this camera it's super short range, not usable as is for performances), having said that with the publicity behind it such as DevLabs all around here in the US, also the fact that they are making laptops with the built-in F200 and tablets with built-in R200 (the long range camera) it seems it might become the only choice for a portable better resolution USB powered 3D camera. In either case I'll be happy to help in anyway necessary if you decided to work on it.


It's rather sad to see that Cycling '74 team does not take care of these things. I recently took a closer look at TouchDesigner and I saw that they have objects that come with the package for every device possible, this one included.

Here in Max we need outside people like Dale to take from their own time to build these objects. 

That is not very good. Not good for the company. And definitely not good for the users.


@YGREQ I think it's a resource issue. I suspect increasing the marketshare of Max would resolve a few of these things.


Actually I wanted to address that in another post as well. 

I actually find it very unwise for Cycling '74 to offer Max for only one month in demo mode. That is not enough time for a beginner to get their hands around Max in order to realise that buying it is worth the effort. I only became a Max user because of the fact I found a way to crack it. In the end I bought it. In case someone is suggesting it is cheap so one can afford it, 1 it is not cheap for many of us, 2 why buy it if you are not sure you are going to use it?

TouchDesigner comes with a free version that you use non-commercially indefinitely. Once you realise you want to make money out of it or you realise you want to use the the power features (that you don't have in the free version, like using a bigger resolution) you buy the app. Which costs lots more that Max by the way. In the meantime the user becomes a power user and everyone is happy.

The conclusion is that by adopting this strategy, Cycling '74 is loosing a lot of potential users from my point of view.


Good news!
Here is an interesting update, Intel realsense seems to be finally available to us Mac users! ( I haven't tested it yet though!) here is a link to the library

https://github.com/IntelRealSense/librealsense

By the way, while (to an extent) I agree to what has been discussed still I think to rely too much on Cycling74 to provide and cover for every device out there is not realistic, I myself would prefer some tutorials on how to do such a task so we could do it for every device that we want to. I think that's the point of having a community after all.

The link says:
"This project is separate from the production software stack available in the Intel® RealSense™ SDK, namely that this library only encompasses camera capture functionality without additional computer vision algorithms."

I think that means we get the camera stream inputs but don't get our hands on all the tasty tracking, gesture and scanning stuff sadly :(


you can just rent the software if it is interesting you? its quite cheap / month


There is already an external made for it , it gives you acces to the depth image but thats it https://github.com/blueyeti/jit.realsense 

Hi all, 
do you know if with this external is it possible to use multiple devices on a single computer?

if the usb driver is multiclient? which i wouldnt expect...

In theory it's possible with the SDK
https://dev.intelrealsense.com/docs/multiple-depth-cameras-configuration 
It's just a matter now to check if the external is capable of handling multiple devices

So, did somebody try and succeeded in using multiple Intel Realsense cameras with a single computer?

I believe it is possible to use multiple devices using the "jit.realsense" external programmed by BlueYeti, since in the code it states a device index to be used, which can also be changed through an attribute. 

The problem is that it doesn't work, returns an invalid pointer error in the Max console. 

- in jit.realsense.cpp there is a variable called "device", which can be assigned to an integer (the device index),
by default is set to "0".  This variable can be modified by the attribute "rs_index" inside Max. 
- When modifying the attribute from Max I get the error "invalid pointer", which I think could originate from this function: 

// Try to get the new device
      auto devs = ctx.query_devices();
      auto n_dev = devs.size();
      post("There are %d connected RealSense devices.\n", n_dev);

     if(n_dev <= device)
      {
        post("Device %d is not connected.", device);
        return;
      }

     dev = devs[device];
........
try
{
  // Get and check the data.
  if(!x || !x->dev)
  {
    error("No device");
    return JIT_ERR_INVALID_PTR;
  }

So, apparently  ctx.query_devices(); doesn't return any valid device. 

Looking more attentively I can see another error thrown out in the Max console:
realsense: info Firmware Version not supported by the device!

Which originates from: 
catch(const std::exception & e)
    {
      error("realsense: %s\n", e.what());
      if(dev)
        dev = nullptr;
    }

But this is very strange, since the device are exactly the same. 
I'll keep posting updates here which could possibly be helpful to someone in the future. 

It seems I'm able to change device by using the "rs_device" attribute, and it seems to switch between them. 
But, it will always use the stream of only one of the cameras, so even if it says "using device 1" it actually uses device 0. 
You can see they are actually different devices from the serial number. 

Using device 1, an Intel RealSense D435
    Serial number: 923322072590
    Firmware version: 05.11.01.100
There are 3 connected RealSense devices.

Using device 0, an Intel RealSense D435
    Serial number: 919122071639
    Firmware version: 05.11.01.100

Hi! I know this thread is quite old now but I am getting crazy trying to compile the jit.realsense object for macOS.
Did anyone succeeded in this? Please let me know, there is couple of things that sadly I do not understand :-(


I've started to take a look at this project and will be evaluating if I can commit some time to it. For now I've got the mac version of the external built and functioning as expected (as far as I can tell with some very basic tests).

Please give it a try: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZY1-XqI2a6QwyNfmmB_gimsovvR2Js_4 

Hi Rob, thanks a lot! Wonderful, really really thanks!


rob - I have a real sense 430 and made my own object to get the depth image but would prefer to use this if it works out. so far it seems to be working really well on the Mac. let me know if you need any testers in the future

Hi Rob, nice job. I just tested it with a D435 and it works as expected. 

I also tested it with the Lidar L515 and while the docs say it uses the same SDK, the external doesn't like it: 

realsense: Couldn't resolve requests.

Hi ROB,
I have installed on mac (mojave) Max 8 latest version, where should I put the jit.realsense.mxo file? I tried in the library and it doesn't recognize the object.

it makes me a strange thing: as soon as I create a new object in a new patch and write "jit.realsense" the MAX8 application unexpectedly closes

create a package folder with an externals folder inside and drop the mxo in there:

~Documents/Max 8/Packages/yourPackage/externals/jit.realsense.mxo

restart max

now it should work. I assume once the object is production ready it will be distributed this way..


I tried to build your updated repo but I failed with the cmake step:

maybites@maybitessMBP172 build % cmake /Users/maybites/Arbeiten/02_code/library/max/jit.realsense -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release
-- The C compiler identification is AppleClang 11.0.3.11030032
-- The CXX compiler identification is AppleClang 11.0.3.11030032
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working C compiler: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc - skipped
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/c++ - skipped
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
CMake Warning (dev) at CMakeLists.txt:27 (set):
  implicitly converting '' to 'STRING' type.
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
CMake Warning (dev) at librealsense/CMake/lrs_options.cmake:12 (option):
  Policy CMP0077 is not set: option() honors normal variables.  Run "cmake
  --help-policy CMP0077" for policy details.  Use the cmake_policy command to
  set the policy and suppress this warning.
  
  For compatibility with older versions of CMake, option is clearing the
  normal variable 'BUILD_UNIT_TESTS'.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  librealsense/CMakeLists.txt:5 (include)
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it

CMake Warning (dev) at librealsense/CMake/lrs_options.cmake:14 (option):
  Policy CMP0077 is not set: option() honors normal variables.  Run "cmake
  --help-policy CMP0077" for policy details.  Use the cmake_policy command to
  set the policy and suppress this warning.
  For compatibility with older versions of CMake, option is clearing the
  normal variable 'BUILD_EXAMPLES'.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  librealsense/CMakeLists.txt:5 (include)
This warning is for project developers.  Use -Wno-dev to suppress it.
-- Internet connection identified
-- Info: REALSENSE_VERSION_STRING=2.38.1
-- Performing Test COMPILER_SUPPORTS_CXX11
-- Performing Test COMPILER_SUPPORTS_CXX11 - Success
-- Performing Test COMPILER_SUPPORTS_CXX0X
-- Performing Test COMPILER_SUPPORTS_CXX0X - Success
-- Setting Unix configurations
-- using RS2_USE_LIBUVC_BACKEND
-- Found usb: /usr/local/lib/libusb-1.0.dylib  
CMake Error at librealsense/src/gl/CMakeLists.txt:43 (include):
  include could not find load file:
  /Users/maybites/Arbeiten/02_code/library/max/jit.realsense/CMake/opengl_config.cmake
  CMake Error at librealsense/examples/CMakeLists.txt:14 (include):
  include could not find load file:
  /Users/maybites/Arbeiten/02_code/library/max/jit.realsense/CMake/opengl_config.cmake
-- Looking for pthread.h
-- Looking for pthread.h - found
-- Performing Test CMAKE_HAVE_LIBC_PTHREAD
-- Performing Test CMAKE_HAVE_LIBC_PTHREAD - Success
-- Found Threads: TRUE  
-- Could NOT find apriltag (missing: APRILTAG_INC APRILTAG_LIB) 
-- Unable to find apriltag library, skipping pose-apriltag example
CMake Error at librealsense/tools/CMakeLists.txt:28 (include):
  include could not find load file:
  /Users/maybites/Arbeiten/02_code/library/max/jit.realsense/CMake/opengl_config.cmake
-- Building with TM2
-- Fetching recommended firmwares:
-- D4XX_FW_VERSION: 5.12.7.100
-- SR3XX_FW_VERSION: 3.26.1.0
-- T26X_FW_VERSION: 0.2.0.951
-- L5XX_FW_VERSION: 1.5.0.0
-- http://realsense-hw-public.s3.amazonaws.com/Releases/RS4xx/FW/D4XX_FW_Image-5.12.7.100.bin
-- Download firmware 0;"No error" for D4XX_FW_Image-5.12.7.100.bin
-- http://realsense-hw-public.s3.amazonaws.com/Releases/SR300/FW/SR3XX_FW_Image-3.26.1.0.bin
-- Download firmware 0;"No error" for SR3XX_FW_Image-3.26.1.0.bin
-- http://realsense-hw-public.s3.amazonaws.com/Releases/TM2/FW/target/0.2.0.951/target-0.2.0.951.mvcmd
-- Download firmware 0;"No error" for target-0.2.0.951.mvcmd
-- http://realsense-hw-public.s3.amazonaws.com/Releases/L5xx/FW/L5XX_FW_Image-1.5.0.0.bin
-- Download firmware 0;"No error" for L5XX_FW_Image-1.5.0.0.bin
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!

I wanted to look into the possibility to output the pointcloud as a matrix to be used with [jit.gl.mesh]. or maybe even one step further: the possibility of [jit.gl.realsense], where the object renders the mesh directly like a 3d model.


the readme in the repo is incorrect for building Mac. I won't be providing any support on this anytime soon, but it should be pretty straight forward to get going. steps are something like:

git clone, including all submodules

cd /path/to/jit.realsense
mkdir build && cd build
cmake -G Xcode ..

open the generated xcode project inside the build folder and build

you may need to run the cmake step twice (i did, errors the first time)

one thing i noticed, for some reason the xcode project Debug configuration has optimizations enabled, so if you want to debug you'll have to manually disable the optimizations setting (Optimization Level setting) or figure out why cmake is generating with those enabled.

Thanks for the hints. I indeed had to redo the first cmake command.

the readme in the repo is incorrect for building Mac.

I was able to build the external with the original readme command. both ways seem to work. 

I have forked the repo and will update the readme with your suggestions plus a fix to the 'CMakeLists.txt' 

-> https://github.com/tecartlab/jit.realsense

TNX @MAYBITES 
I tried to make the folder with externals in PACKAGEs but it doesn't work it quits unexpectedly as soon as i try to create an object with "jit.realsense". I reinstalled max8. Can someone help me? 

Please, Can you post your external here: "jit.realsense.mxo"? I will copy it to my externals folder 
thnx!


https://github.com/tecartlab/jit.realsense/releases/tag/v5 

THNX MAYBITES
I copied the folder in Package/jit.realsense/externals but this happens. WHY IT?
What do you think about it?


Yes I restarted max.
Should I install  Intel® RealSense™ SDK 2.0 (v2.39.0) first of all this?

I think thats not needed. the brown color indicates max is not finding the object-external.

restart Max, create a blank patch, add a  jit.realsense object, go to the max console, select all, copy, and paste the contents here 

I would like to do what you tell me but does not allow it closes immediately as soon as I create the object jit.realsense and press return.
Is it 32bit?
I use max8
tnhx

please, can you create another build version for MAC OS of  jit.realsense?

you have a screenshot posted above. there is a jit.realsense object that is tinged orange. I just want to know what the Max console says in that screenshot. Help us to help you!

yes, that is the situation in OCT 08 2020 | 10:56 AM. but now  MAX8 closes immediately as soon as I create the object jit.realsense and press return.

hi I build the external by cmake but this is

remove the quarantine attribute via xattr - https://cycling74.com/articles/using-unsigned-max-externals-on-mac-os-10-15-catalina 

also your folder structure in the Packages folder should be Packages / realsense / externals / jit.realsense.mxo 

i would just use the -d option and remove it on the entire folder.

 unfortunately it doesn't work...,
I tried it but terminal display returns this:


xattr: /Users/admin/Documents/Max 8/Packages/externals: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine

hi,
I had trouble too. This is what helped for me:
1. You need Catalina (OS X 10.15.7)
2. Use xattr as described above (Type in terminal: xattr -d -r 
com.apple.quarantine then drag the folder containing 
jit.realsense.mxo into the terminal window and hit enter)
3. install homebrew https://brew.sh/index_de
4. install libusb with brew install libusb
5. not sure if the installing the xCode command line tools is necessary too?

My understanding is, that libusb is required to use jit.realsense.mxo.  


(i think xcode command line tools is necessary to install homebrew anyway)

thank youThank you rob! I have been debugging in the terminal tool for 1 day, but I can’t use  sdk in maxos normally. Fortunately, I searched the forum and found jit.realsense here. It works very well and is perfect! grateful!

Hi all,
did someone succesfully use the external with 2 devices connected to the same computer? i 'm on Windows10 64bit and use the compiled version from blueyeti..(eventually it's not the newest version)  

Federico raised this question too some time ago... i can switch rs_device but the output stays the same.
maybe someone can provide a already built version for Win10 64bit? 

Hi Mat, I can confirm you that I managed to get at least 3 devices working on the same computer.
The main point are the cables. Be sure to be using powered USB cables. 


i will try to find some time in the near future to clean up the versions I have and post them somewhere useful.

ok. interesting. because in touch i can sitch easily both devices. 
 but lets see.  i will try that. 

so there's no point in built the external from rob's git?

thanks Federico for this supermegafast answer. 



@maybites I downloaded your version of jit.realsense. It's recognised by Max 8 just fine but clicking the toggle object to start the stream produces the following error in the Max console. 

Using device 0, an Intel RealSense D415
    Serial number: 821312061537
    Firmware version: 05.13.00.50
realsense: Couldn't resolve requests
wait_for_frames cannot be called before start()
jit.realsense: error type unspecified
wait_for_frames cannot be called before start()
jit.realsense: error type unspecified


Is Anyone else experiencing the same behaviour? I have realsense sdk, max-sdk, and libusb installed. I'm running MacOS 11.7.1


Intel Realsense development

Faranak Hosseini

how can I make a visual music in max which is transmodal ( animations are acting with some neats of the music with using fffb~)

make-a-visual-music

make a visual music

Ernest

OK guys, who wants to get on TV? ROFL! This is too good to keep to myself. Could do Eudoxan, Copernican, and Thycohian solar systems models too. And have different user interfaces.  Take your choice. More details at https://yofiel.com/essays/geocentrism.php ~ Contact info at bottom of page. 

Screenshot 2022-11-24 203856.jpg

OK guys, who wants to get on TV? ROFL! This is too good to keep to myself. 

calling-maxers-seeking-team-to-create-ancient-and-modern-solar-system-models!

ok, I made a simple slide of it and got rid of my usual long ramble. Im actually learning not to do that. Sorry. 

Well, I must say I am disappointed. I used to get half a dozen messages a day on posts like this. Maybe Cycling74 has been losting customers outside the academic community because it has no simple way of producting a software-protected app, even with the new thing, that remains a bit of a problem. 

...or  you're posting this during thanksgiving weekend? 

i am so important that people delete their posts only because i did not understand them?


Oh, sorry Wettenberg, I didnt know. Ill try later )

Okey dokey, I finished my blog about it. I got 1700 comments on various social media, and the last 200 required no further change, so I think it's done.  It did take quite a bit to answer all the comments:


https://yofiel.com/essays/geocentrism.php

5,400 words in 64 paragraphs
22 illustrations and videos
50 references


It’s all flat.
everything is flat.
all the stars and sun and moon passing by everyday are new and different.
it’s an optical illusion that things are round or curved.
our brains misinterpret round and curved things because our pupils and eyes are round.

CALLING MAXERS: SEEKING TEAM to create ancient and modern solar system models!

nathan goyea

Hi all!
This forum has been really helpful, so I thank you all.
I am currently using my arduino uno to send data, serially, to MAX/MSP and output sounds. However my project needs to work over long distance, and therefore requires the data to be sent by bluetooth. Does anyone know how I can send data from my arduino to MAX and control the output this way? What is the setup in MAX/MSP and what modules will I need for the arduino?
I'd be grateful for any help.
Thanks!

Hi all!
This forum has been really helpful, so I thank you all.
I am currently using my arduino uno to send data, serially, to MAX/MSP and ... 

arduino-max-bluetooth

bluetooth - long distance - not really best option.
Depending on distance - I would use one ESP32
or 8266 model and send over WiFi.


one can also use serial wireles remote like HC-11, or 12 etc
I have run such on battery with > 30m distance
on arduino micro 3.3v




Arduino MAX bluetooth

Ben Bracken

We have just released Max 8.5.1 and RNBO 1.0.1, which focuses on fixing crashes and other issues affecting OSes with certain language settings, and crashes in the Text Editor window when RNBO is not authorized. 


As always, you can download the update here:
https://cycling74.com/downloads

For a list of all Max 8.5.1 and RNBO 1.0.1 fixes, check out the change log below, or here:
https://cycling74.com/releases/max/8.5.1
https://cycling74.com/releases/rnbo/1.0.1

Enjoy!
Cycling '74

curve~: fixed list received during pending lists

Patches: fixed issues with saving / recalling invalid patchlines from patcher dictionary

Startup: fixed crash on machines with language settings that use extended characters

Text Editor: fixed crash on save in editor when RNBO is not authorized (coll, js, dict, etc)

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With this latest Max release (8.1.6), we've added a long list of new features to mtr that support more creative usage of this classic Max object. To celebrate the release, we put together a video and patcher that uses mtr to drive a granular sound engine with looping parameters.

In addition to the expansive looping and overdubbing features, mtr now supports dictionary access, event editing via messages, pattr-style binding, and transport sync. We look forward to seeing and hearing what you make with it.

With this latest Max release (8.1.6), we've added a long list of new features to mtr that support more creative usage of this classic Max ob

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its my first update since my purchase of full max licence so im not sure do I have to uninstall previous max version and then install the update OR do I just install the update into the same old folder and It automatically deletes the older version?

and do my snippets and libraries remain intact?

Hiya, Max updates are always a full install so there is no need to pre-install other versions. Your snippets and Preferences shouldn't be affected in any way.

I am aware that you don't need previous versions, but if you have them: do you need to first uninstall them yourself or does the new installation do that for you?

just install the update into the same old folder and It automatically deletes the older version

👆this(you'll be given a choice when running the installer to either 'replace' the old version of Max, or install alongside(allowing you to keep newer versions alongside older ones)... but either way, as long as you open and work within the 8.1.6 version of Max, you'll have access to the latest/8.1.6 version of the 'mtr' object - you don't need to uninstall anything first)

I try to adapt [mtr] for parameter recording for non real time rendering in Jitter.
This means recording with 60 frames per second and output of recorded parameters on bangs that are send from the rendering logic (meaning not equidistant intervals).
How to achieve that?

The "next" message unfortunately doesn't work, because it is event based instead of time step based and so will not work with parameters that are not updated every frame during recording.

([mtr] would help  to overcome limitations of the Non-real time 4K recording patch in  https://cycling74.com/tutorials/best-practices-in-jitter-part-2-recording-1 ).

Edit: I mean my attempt with "playatms" followed by "stop" feels clumsy.


Hello Andrew, [mtr] especially the pattr-style binding seems to be quite buggy in Max 8.1.8.
I tried to make a parameter recorder for non real time rendering (e.g. 60fps recording and slow and non equidistant playback based on the speed of the rendering), in order to overcome limitations of this one https://cycling74.com/tutorials/best-practices-in-jitter-part-2-recording-1/ .
I would like to know if one can use [pattrstorage @subscribemode 1], [autopattr] in parallel to [mtr @bindto].
In the following example it looks like after binding the sliders to [mtr] the subscription to the [pattrstorage] objects gets lost. Is this a general limitation ?

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