ANNOUNCEMENT: Community discussions will be web-only after 2/20/09.


    Feb 14 2009 | 4:42 am
    In a little over a week's time, all of Cycling 74's community
    discussions will be web-only. On Friday, February 20, 2009, we will
    be shutting off all of our public, two-way mailing lists. This includes:
    dev@cycling74.com
    java-dev@cycling74.com
    javascript-dev@cycling74.com
    jitter@cycling74.com
    jitter-dev@cycling74.com
    maxmsp@cycling74.com
    pluggo@cycling74.com
    radial@cycling74.com
    In order to participate in our discussions, you will need to use our
    Additionally, ending our public mailing lists will correspond with an
    upgrade to our forum software, which we hope will offer greater stability and
    useful features, such as post editing.
    We understand that some of you may be upset by this decision.
    However, know that this decision was not something we took lightly,
    nor was it hastily decided. The fact is, the mailing lists have had
    a sell-by date since we started the forums. The reason they lasted so
    long, and that we went through the trouble of tying them to our forums,
    is because we realize how fond of them many of you are.
    We have two primary reasons for ending the mailing lists, which basically
    boil down to:
    1. The difficulty of synchronizing the forums and mailing lists, from both
    technical and cultural perspectives, has compromised the user experience.
    2. The ease with which public mailing lists can be targeted by
    spammers. With hundreds of thousands of messages per day being sent to
    our mailing lists, fighting spam has become far too time-consuming and
    expensive for us to support.
    Some of you may say "well, I don't want to browse the forums - I
    like having the list come into my mailbox" and for those of you, have you
    considered RSS? We have RSS feeds for each of the forums. Here are their URLs:
    All topics: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    Max/MSP: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=7&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    Jitter: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=8&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    Pluggo: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=9&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    radiaL: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=10&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    Dev: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=15&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    Javascript: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/atom.php?frm=17&mode=m&l=1&n=10&basic=1
    We also have a beta version of the RSS feeds that include a couple of minor
    improvements, such as a link to reply to the post, which was implemented
    specifically for folks switching to RSS from the mailing list. If you save
    your login on the forums, this will allow you to immediately reply to the topic
    at hand, rather than requiring you to login, navigate to the forum thread and
    find the "post" link.
    You can access the beta version by simply taking the above URL, and adding
    substituting "atom-test.php" for "atom.php".
    Note, the feeds are quite customizable, if you haven't taken a look at
    you'll find that the customizable options include,
    * pulling feeds not just for certain forums, as listed above, but also by category & topic
    * number of messages retrieved
    * date cutoffs
    * date ordering
    It might take a period of initial adjustment, but I think many of you will
    find that RSS feeds feel very similar to the mailing lists.
    It's also worth mentioning that, although we won't officially support it, there
    are RSS->email services out there that would be capable of pulling our feeds
    into your mailboxes.
    If you receive any of our mailing lists, your last e-mail will be
    sent on February 20. This will contain a reminder that the mailing
    lists will be ending. After that, we sincerely hope you'll continue to
    participate in our community either via our web site or RSS.