Any new books in development for max & msp?

    Sep 27 2010 | 7:41 pm
    I know that the tutorials that ship with max msp are great but I'm wondering if any of you know of any other books that are out there or are in development that cover both. I know there is Todd Winklers books but that doesn't even touch the msp side of it and also so on Cycling's front page that Francisco Colasanto has wrote a book in Spanish on Max and is going to also release one in the future on Msp. I wonder if both editions will also have an English edition. Cheers

    • Sep 27 2010 | 7:54 pm
      Theres an italian book which english edition will be published in November. Which i will definately order then.
    • Sep 28 2010 | 9:04 am
      I am working over something but it will be in french...
    • Sep 28 2010 | 2:43 pm
      cheers guys for the feedback. Roald best of luck with the book your working on :) wish my French was good.
    • Sep 28 2010 | 3:08 pm
      I'd be interested to know which, if any, elements or approaches you feel are 'missing' from the Max dox, as you say you've been through them, and what you hope to find in a book. I only ask as someone who only ever refers to the Max dox when I need to, if I run into problems or whatever, my hard-drive is groaning under the weight of numerous pdf tutorials (Dobrian/Elsea/Puckette et al) which I have yet to read (and I'm very slowly putting together my own comprehensive text on MaxMSP for noobs like myself, based on Curtis Roads' Computer Music Tutorial) - so I'm curious about your opinion of the Max toots etc Cheers Brendan
    • Sep 28 2010 | 6:51 pm
      Hey Brendan, Its not that I think that there is anything missing from the Max/MSP tutorials its just I much rather have a hardcopy of text rather than reading of the screen, which I can always refer to (bit silly I know). I do like the way that with each tutorial there is a patch to go along with it explaining each object/message box etc. I would like further explanation into the whole digital realm such as dsp, different types of synthesis and sampling etc a bit more but in the tutorials but I know being a music tech student there are tonnes of books out there covering this subject but would like how all these techniques can be implemented in msp and midi for max. I think that the tutorials provided are great especially the referencing where it explains each argument/message etc. As I have stated I do like having a physical copy in front of me when designing/coding just to refer to. Hope that has kind of helped. :)
    • Sep 28 2010 | 7:06 pm
      Thanks for responding to the spirit of my question, there are some valid points there. Of course, I didn't think of the hardcopy issue, it's one area where digital technology is still struggling: we can't browse through and scribble notes on a .pdf file (cue all iPad owners!!).
      Given the nature of programming in MaxMSP, I think the documentation is outstanding: countless examples/usage suggestions/cross-references etc etc, all written in a fairly accessible language that is neither condescending nor impregnable.
      I will bear your points in mind as I plan my own text. Thanks again Brendan
    • Sep 28 2010 | 7:19 pm
      also would like a broader explanation on generating envelopes with the use of messages and the line object. I am used to ADSR but still I struggle with the timing of calculating different envelopes. This may just be me though ha.
      Also stumbled upon this site: which has been extremely helpful.
    • Sep 30 2010 | 4:59 pm
      Also Brendan wouldn't mind having an explanation of the math involved in music especially in the digital audio such as dsp calculating frequency rates amplitudes nyquist and Fourier expiation. In the tutorials there are a few formula but not explained in much depth. I know in an over forum it was mentioned that Musimathics is pretty good, but I would like it of this could be integrated in msp/max in a way.
    • Sep 30 2010 | 5:49 pm
      You and me both dthomas86! I am a true MathPhobe, but I'm putting that to rights by exploring DSP in Max, what I have done is rooted around to find the best papers/resources relating to these subjects; if I haven't mentioned it already Miller Puckette's The Theory and Technique of Electronic Music is (for me) the best;
      (edit: oops you got that one)
      and I think this might be by the same Ninja-Meister:
      I also keep stumbling on this, but it seems quite 'formula-heavy' at first glance: Dave Benson's Music: A Mathematical Offering
      keep doin those sums Bro! Brendan