Anybody out there using mubu or other concatenative synthesis?
wondering about integrating such a system into my live rig. Any experience in using it with unknown material (recently recorded, stuff like that) would be most appreciated.
Edit- not sure what aspects you are really looking for in terms of feedback - fwiw I essentially just use it (mubu.concat~) to do segment playback (so far). Nothing elaborate in terms of segment selection i.e. no CataRT 'style' usage, which would probably chew up cycles in the analysis &/or matching phases - I guess that is where PIPO processing would be of use, but I have not gotten very far with that at all. The thing I did notice,and which may already be obvious, is to beware of trying to read from a buffer that is simultaneously being recorded, as, if my experience is anything to go by, this will bring the scheduler to its knees.
ah, so basically you use it as a slicer of sorts? That'd be fun, too.
Mubu is the best thing to ever come out of ircam.
those are big words, mate :) I'd be inclined to agree, were it not for SPAT and, in particular, GRM tools. The impact of that set, my man...
Nice try, but grm tools are not ircam. They are grm. Agreed they are great. Anyway on topic, I guess I meant in terms of their max stuff. Or did I ?
I too have used mubu.concat for slicing and indexing segments. It's very useful to have all the resampling/ filtering options built in. I haven't really worked out how to store descriptors in mubu tracks though.
Richard
@stkr well shit, you're right. I could've sworn it was essentially an ircam product made for INA-GRM or whatever they're called. Huh.
@Richard well well... very interesting. My main goal is applying the slicing to live recordings, with no intention of saving the data in any meaningful way... for now (famous last words)
FYI (and slightly OT), it can also be reasonably argued that Max itself came out of IRCAM as it was while there that Miller Puckette developed it...
according to ircam marketing, almost everything came out of ircam.
we can be happy that we dont have to pay a monthly fee for the www or the doubleclick patend, because thats all inventions of ircam.
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@wetterberg So - returning to the subject of Mubu.
I have found it pretty good for slicing though last time I used it the PIPO onset detector wasn't ready so I had to write my own.
I did a hexaphonic guitar piece with Mubu last year that had six input buffers talking to fifteen Mubu.concat objects and it worked fine. The piece didn't call for highly accurate timing so I can't vouch for that.
Richard
@raja: yeah, that's what piqued my interest to begin with, actually. I didn't really see a use in my set for the reconstructive elements of it, but for slicing with onset detection.... that's pretty dope.
@richard: that project sounds really cool - do you have a recording of it, by chance? I'd love to hear it.
The hexaphonic guitar piece is at:
With a video of another iteration at:
Both are stereo reductions from 8.0
Best
Richard