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sorry in advance because i can't share example here but if you have been experienced this as well, you will understand.

For a standalone application, i send a message at opening with loadbang, to initialized presentation. 

Something annoying is whatever you can send "window flags notitle, window exec" from the main level patcher, there is a tiny but noticeable time that the title quickly appears when opening the standalone just before the loadbang send the message.

I have been looking for solution to go around but i can't get a solution. It really looks like this is a core thing. The standalone opens up, then there's a delay for loadbang message to be sent.

Hi,
sorry in advance because i can't share example here but if you have been experienced this as well, you will understand.

For a standalone application, i send a message at opening with loadbang, to initialized presentation. 
Something annoying is whatever you can send  "window flags notitle, window exec" from the main level patcher, there is a tiny but noticeable time that the title quickly appears when opening the standalone just before the loadbang send the message. 

 I have been looking for solution to go around but i can't get a solution. It really looks like this is a core thing. The standalone opens up, then there's a delay for loadbang message to be sent. 

Hi,
sorry in advance because i can't share example here but if you have been experienced this as well, you will understand.
I m on macOS, ma

application-notitle

For the record, found a "go around". The trick is to have the top patcher with the openrect set to 1 1 1 1, so we can't see the title/notitle exec delay, then open the main patcher as a subpatch with a little offset.

thx, but it doesn't seem to change anything in my case.

thx, but it doesn't seem to change anything in my case.
... but my work around does works. 

Application : notitle