hi

not sure what you mean but doing what you say i spretty easy with groove~ - if you start at sample 0, define (with info~ ...) the loop points, and send message loop 1

then your bang switches to loop 0 and plays the file until the end...

best

kasper -- Kasper T. Toeplitz noise, composition, bass, computer http://www.sleazeArt.com

well if you want your envelope code to work sampleexact under all circumstances, you have to work in signal-only.

if the accuracy needed is not about the time point when something starts, but more about synchronizing the process with the another process, you could downsample the envelope stuff for 2 or 4.

i have never used adsr~ because it is too unflexible for my needs (and does not exist for OS 9) but that would be a way to go. just try to avoid sending messages to start 10 of them "at the same time" - use signals for that.

Thanks for the tips, Roman.

A last annoyance forced me to leave this "audio enveloppe" approach aside : even after doing a clean edit in soundforge, the loops still glitch (near unaudible but they're here).

By the way, i'm using this thread (i'm still a mailing list user...) to mention a few weird things i've discovered while doing this patch :

- info~ (on win) doesn't give the Sustain Loop Start, nor the two Release Start / End Points. Only the Sustain End. I assume this object reads the loop infos from an *.aif* file (which is not common on pc, we use .wav most of the time), so i've edited some .aif's in soundforge and saved these loops within the files, with no results...

- pattrstorage seems to be very touchy (still on win) : if you delete a pattr already bound to an object, or delete this object itself before deleting pattrstorage, you could say bye bye to your patch and go restart your computer.

best

f.e