Bug in connecting objects in Max
Max 4.6.3 on MacBook Pro 17" using OSX 10.4.10.
Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic objects.
Often the patch cord doesn't actually connect at the receiver. It leaves a
line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I lock the
patch, But worse, sometimes - often actually - Max crashes when I am in the
process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at the time -
no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic objects
in the patch.
Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
On 22.03.2008, at 19:51, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
> Max 4.6.3 on MacBook Pro 17" using OSX 10.4.10.
>
> Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic
> objects.
> Often the patch cord doesn't actually connect at the receiver. It
> leaves a
> line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I
> lock the
> patch, But worse, sometimes - often actually - Max crashes when I
> am in the
> process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at
> the time -
> no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic
> objects
> in the patch.
>
Hi Gary,
could you specify a little more what you did exactly (which objects
or post an example) and maybe join a crashreport. I tried to recreate
your crash but I didn't experience one.
(same machine, same max, but OS 10.4.11)
cheers
Piet
This is a catch-22. When the crash happens, the patch is gone. When I
reopen and do exactly the same thing, it may not crash. If it would be
helpful, I'll collect the crash log next time it happens.
Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
> From: Piet Johan Meyer
> Reply-To:
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:04:28 +0100
> To:
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Bug in connecting objects in Max
>
>
> On 22.03.2008, at 19:51, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
>
>> Max 4.6.3 on MacBook Pro 17" using OSX 10.4.10.
>>
>> Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic
>> objects.
>> Often the patch cord doesn't actually connect at the receiver. It
>> leaves a
>> line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I
>> lock the
>> patch, But worse, sometimes - often actually - Max crashes when I
>> am in the
>> process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at
>> the time -
>> no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic
>> objects
>> in the patch.
>>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> could you specify a little more what you did exactly (which objects
> or post an example) and maybe join a crashreport. I tried to recreate
> your crash but I didn't experience one.
> (same machine, same max, but OS 10.4.11)
>
> cheers
> Piet
Gary Lee Nelson schrieb:
> This is a catch-22. When the crash happens, the patch is gone. When I
> reopen and do exactly the same thing, it may not crash. If it would be
> helpful, I'll collect the crash log next time it happens.
I have occasional crashes, which could happen with the most simple patch
imaginable. Its rare and only happening while editing. It isn't related
to any specific patch, as I had it also with official help patches while
modifying them...
It's almost impossible to track down, I guess it will be gone with Max 5...
Sometimes I think it might be some java based other application which
makes it crash, more voodoo than science though...
Stefan
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ehm, sorry, but anyone has a Novation Remote zero or similar attached?
Because I have some crashing problems too.
Only the whole grafix go buum.
Computer still working, audio playing but grafix gone.
This happens even when nothing going on, so to say, Max/MSP is on, DSP off, Live on, but empty set.
And it is happening since a week (the only thing I changed in my usual habits is I started to use the anal/prob objects intensively and repaired my HD permissions), when the computer puts ONLY the screen asleep.
When I edit in Max I experience the same crash type EXACTLY as said above.
just connecting 2 objects makes the computer grafix go buum.
Though I noticed that it is NOT happening when
a) Remote zero disconnected
b) Audio/MIDI setup default built in
c) Computer did NOT go in sleep mode yet
it happens maybe 3 times when the Remote zero is connected, then nothing, today it still did not happen.
I just wanted to give some more information so that maybe a theory comes out...
+ I had some Safari problems which did not manifest with Firefox.
ps, I contacted Novation already, though I have to say everything was fine till maybe a week ago.
Since it happened again 2 times...
I noticed that when it happens I get a little electric shock from the keyboard.
So I made this little search on google
anyone had this experience?
ps
check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdtDHjr3QM
btw I have a plastic Macbook, so for me, boh??? I have really no idea...
ciao to all
Just for the chronicle:
I have 2 distinct different problems.
1) is HW
2) the other is soft.
Since in a moment of panic I thought I had company I posted here, but I made a mistake, sorry.
My problems have very little to do with Max, well, the responsible is not Max, or the Novation Remote.
I tested in a HW shop, and I have serious static problems, so bad that the computer
Are you sure your search path is kosher?
Reading your symptoms, I'm thinking, well, when Max refuses to make a connection it's normally because the patch-time type-checking says the recipient won't understand the message the sender is transmitting. I always assumed that was one of the reasons for specifying message types in the API for creating inlets and outlets.
So much is not news, but it may be a sign that Max is loading the wrong external file for one of your objects. I had this happen with scale object years ago, from the wild west days when there was no standard scale object but about 15 different 3PO implementations. One reason I gave scampi and scampf oddball names was to avoid external name ambiguity.
I realize you can't save a patch with the connection that crashes Max, but can you localize to particular externals? And maybe Spotlight your search path to be sure there aren't any duplicates.
Hope this helps.