Bugreport: encapsulate and connect outlets on load

Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
> Great bug, thanks! I can confirm in Max 4.5.7 and will attempt to fix.

If you are at it, please consider two enhancenments, one obvious, one
for further enhanced convenience.

The obvious will probably correct the reported bug:

As the bug example shows, the inlets are hidden, in more complex
patchers you do not know how many inplets are created (see request 2)

Solution: put all the inlets above the highest object in a single row
according to their bang order (y-coordinate the same for all inlets).
If possible directly above the first connected object (x-coordinate).

The same for outlets but below the lowest object (y-coordinate).

This will lead to readable and understandable encapsulations.

For the second request there is a simple example patch:

If you deencapsulate the left patcher and simply encapsulate it again,
it will not be that same. I desperately want it to be the same, for
simple reasons:

If I have two sources going into one destination inside a subpatcher,
its just a logically clear coment-like construction. It does not require
a second input, it should not have a second input as this second input
is internally identicall with the first!

The patcher need an internal logic, not an external...
The right example creates a redundant cord to the rightmost inlet,
beside cluttering the internal patch into an unreadable state (see
request 1) it creates also too many inlets.
The most left inlet most likely is the most important, just use this.

I know we did discuss that already, but I haven't heard any reasonable
argument for the way it is now and hope my examples will show the
evidence of my point of view...

By the way, I LOVE encapsulation, I can't express it loud enough, I hope
my rant will enhance it even more:

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Stefan Tiedje
Klanggestalter
Electronic Composition
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Improvisation

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