Changing speed of groove~ also changes volume ?

Florent Ghys's icon

Hello!

When I change the speed of a groove~ by sending a 2 to a sig~, the volume is louder than the original speed.
Is it just a feeling or is it a natural acoustic fact ?
And is there like a mathematical relation between speed and volume in order to keep the same volume while changing speed ?

thanks a lot

Roman Thilenius's icon

there is a relation between pitch and loudness, but the factor depends on the
material and is not predictable.

just make some tests and find your personal value for lowering the gain (with
the desired effect on the percepted loudness) like say, -3db/A per octave ...

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Florent Ghys's icon

thanks for your reply Roman
I will measure it with my material
but does it mean it is going to be a different factor if I play on another PA ?
thanks

Valiumdupeuple's icon

I think that this "material" Roman's talking about is not your speakers but the samples you're using. But I'm maybe wrong.

Christopher Dobrian's icon
goodparleyandorfing's icon
goodparleyandorfing's icon

oops, looks like we had the same idea. ish..

Florent Ghys's icon

very interesting readings...
thanks guys !
that's exactly what I was looking for

Roman Thilenius's icon

fletcher munson, no not exactly what i was thinking of.
because it wont really work for broadband audio like say, a piano sample or a drumloop.

mudang's icon

if you know the playback volume, maybe you could use a weighting-filter to calculate the perceived loudness and compensate for that...??