comments in patcher as text

tworowski.sebastien@laposte.net wrote:
> Is there a possibility to add comments in "patchers as text" in a similar
> way ?

What about searching the manual for the word "comment"?

Stefan

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On 26-Apr-2006, at 11:23, tworowski.sebastien@laposte.net wrote:
> Ok but that's not what i mean !!!
>
> it would bive something like this for example :
> #p blabla blla blabla 1234 9823 374 299 blabla //mon blabla
>
> See ?
> Nothing to do with the comment object.

I almost sent the same reply as Stefan, but reread just in time...
(particularly because I was sure Sebastien's Max chops are up to
comment boxes, and more!)

The Max text format is "not intended to be human-readable" (words to
that effect have been posted several times over the decades by DDZ
and, possibly, JKC), so the answer is probably "no".

There may be some more "secrets" skulking about, though.

On a wild guess:

#P foo baz 314 156259 374 42 hike; after-the-semi-ignored?

You could try that but I think the Max parser will behave tiresomely
if there is non-patcher commentary after the semi-colon.

OK: Jeremy, Joshua, David: this is your cue to prove me wrong.

-)

P.

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On 26 Apr 2006, at 12:39, Peter Castine wrote:

> #P foo baz 314 156259 374 42 hike; after-the-semi-ignored?
>
> You could try that but I think the Max parser will behave
> tiresomely if there is non-patcher commentary after the semi-colon.

As I recall, this text format is just a printable binbuf (if anyone
remembers those), so newlines aren't significant; the I/O routines
tend to put them in after semicolons. A quick hack-and-test seems to
confirm this.

    -- N.

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On 26-Apr-2006, at 14:55, Nick Rothwell wrote:
> binbuf (if anyone remembers those),

Indeedahdo. On'y last month we was talkin' 'bout 'em on a dev-list.

> so newlines aren't significant;

Figgerred as much. Woulda been a good way to fix up Seb's ahdear,
though.

> A quick hack-and-test seems to confirm this.

Thanks fer doin' at.

-- P. (seems to a been a-readin' Annie Proulx)

> I tried the possibility to write something after the ; at the end of each
> line but it changes all the connections and
> messes up all the patch of course.

you can comment in a more sanely readable manner, but you have to adjust
your connections at the same time. probably better to do this with some
sort of automatic interface rather than by hand. the second patch below
patch is functionally identical to the first, but it's more readable in
text form. notice especially the way the connect lines change. the
pattern is fairly obvious: object lines appear to be constructed as a
stack beginning with index 0 (ie, lower numbers are lower on the page).
on the other hand, as has been pointed out, this format may not be
reliable... and this is a very simple example.

...is the same as...

On 27-Apr-2006, at 10:39, dlurk wrote:
>

Well done. Did you work that out by intelligent guessing or could you
fall back on any written documentation (maybe more secrets)?

-- P.

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I use the text representation a lot. Not to edit but to search for sends/receives/grabs/colls/prints throughout my patch with a texteditor that has advanced search options (e.g. the textwrangler 'Find all' option). In fact I am just waiting for a 'Find all' option in Max.