the patch i just posted here should help you get started: https://cycling74.com/forums/rotate-shape-on-pivot

Thanks a lot, but a few items don't seem to be working within the patch :( zl.slice 2 jit.anim.drive @turn 0 0 1 @speed 100

Are they externals?

Ah think I will just give up, its due tomorrow and don't think i can get my head round it, thanks for the help though :)

those two objects are probably max 6 related, I'm guessing here that you're on max 5?

You probably don't need the jit.anim.drive, and zl.slice can be replaced with "zl slice 2" without the . in there, if I'm not mistaken?

Will give it a try thanks

And yeah I have Max 5.1

Here is my code with your patch implemented, but I've done it wrong some how. Kind of a beginner with Max and struggling hard! Would appreciate if someone could have a quit problem solve, think I have like a link not connected or something

i would use jit.lcd to draw the rect and then copy it into the matrix