Easy way to get more basic waves?

seejayjames

Anyone know a simple way to get a few more basic waveforms? Cycle, tri, and rect and getting dull... ;)

I know I can create my own custom ones, but if there's a few fancy tricks (like with phasor~) to easily make a handful more basic ones, that'll be good. I'm manipulating these waves a lot so they really don't have to be very complex to start with.

Thanks!
-CJ

Isjtar

i usually just mix them together (at osc level, same pitch and all), if you adjust the pw cycle of the rectangle, you can get most basic waveforms settled.
otherwis, just take one cycle waveforms from a sample and load them in cycle~

seejayjames

Thanks for the input! Um.... hate to be one of "those guys", but what do you think about this?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7064883&pr oductCategoryId=cat01053&type=product&tab=1&id=1 108125529579

Sounds sketchy because of the superlow price, but hey, if it does what it says, that's cool. I don't have a laptop that can really run Max well yet. Just a thought..... (also a very limited budget!)

I'll check out some more of the Fm synthesis and such to see if I can get some of those basic waves going. I've experimented with some of the multiplication and you're right, the pulse width helps a lot. I'm using them in an 8-voice "harmonics adder" kind of patch to play arpeggiated frequencies with a lot of "color" in them, adjustable and with a load of presets. Just want another handful of basic ones to choose from for each voice.

-CJ

Isjtar

The page you requested can't be accessed right now, or it no longer exists.

btw, fm won't give you simple waveforms, unless you are one of the few who actually knows exactly what he's doing with fm...

jln

It can actually. But the link was too long. Try this one instead :
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http://tinyurl.com/lo8dc

hth,

Julien.

jln

Stupid me. I send the parsed link to TinyURL... Here's the one :

http://tinyurl.com/l8ost

Julien.

redhexagonal

try noise~ kink~ and raising to a power with pow~ . in theory you could make any wafeform out of sine waves, so it shouldnt be possible to get bored

Peter Castine

On 3-Jun-2006, at 22:58, Seejay James wrote:
> Anyone know a simple way to get a few more basic waveforms? Cycle,
> tri, and rect and getting dull... ;)

All waveforms get dull after a while, it takes a lot of processing to
get a lively sound. But if you're interested in waveforms, look at
the waveshaping example (examples/synths/cheby.pat). For that matter,
all the synth examples will probably be useful for you.

Phase distortion is also a useful technique. You can do it with kink~
or similar, but I use lp.scamp~ because it offers more flexibility.
Something like the below, which will be included in the next release
of Litter Power (requires the Pro Bundle):

Max Patch

Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

-------------- http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/ -------------
Peter Castine +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter

seejayjames

Wow! Thanks for the input. I'm gonna try kink~ and wave~ and see if I can get just a couple more basic "raw materials" for my harmonics patch. There's lots of other places in my patch for samples, so this area is just for basic synth sounds--especially as they're all being added together and modulated already.

Also will re-read those tutorials.... ;)

-CJ

Stefen William

You could make any wafeform out of waves, so you need'nt get bored.