Falling text symbols, need help

Miguel Mesa

Hi! I'm on a project and I need to make a patch that shows a kind of rain of letters, falling. Not as fast as "the Matrix" film.

I've been working with jit.gl.text2d but my concern is the speed... it seems to be a slow procedure. And the falling efect I programmed isn't working.

My idea is to have a 3 plane matrix, the first plane is for the letter, second and third for X,Y coordinates. In order to achieve the falling efect I used a jit.expr object but it doesn't seem to work.

Here is the patch, any suggestion?

Thanks in advance!

Max Patch

Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

Zachary Seldess

How about this? This probably isn't the best way to do it, but it's a quick fix.

Zachary

Max Patch

Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

Matth

Max Patch

Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

Zachary Seldess

Yeah, the jit.slide is a nice touch.

Miguel Mesa

Thanks Zachary and Matthieu. I was stuck and your suggestions were really helpful!

Rob Ramirez

looks like you've got some nice suggestions.
however, if you need some more inspiration, i would also suggest taking a look at the jitter particle generators and creating a particle system to generate position values for your letters.

-rob

nesa

Hello,

you had a small but nasty bug in your jit.expr: instead of accesing
separate planes of matrix incoming through inlet 0(in[0].p[0]), you
were using whole matrices incoming into inlets 0 1 2(in[0]).

Another catch is to use float values for char matrices too, meaning
that char values are 0-1. instead of 0-255.

To gain some speed, get rid of pwindows.

You can also add modulo operator to jit.expr, so that the y
coordinate remains in given range(% 1. means that when the values
passes 1. it snaps back to 0.)

Here's your patch changed a bit:

Max Patch

Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

ppagano

in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
will these be available for 1.6 soon
anyone else using these?

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Sound and Light Technologist
School of Theatre and Dance
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL USA

Wesley Smith

I wouldn't count on it.
wes

On 8/14/07, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> will these be available for 1.6 soon
> anyone else using these?
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
>
>

joshua goldberg

someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.

On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> will these be available for 1.6 soon
> anyone else using these?
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>

ppagano

I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.

how do/did others update their externals so rapidly

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Sound and Light Technologist
School of Theatre and Dance
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL USA

-----Original Message-----
From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
Cc: Kurt Ralske
Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.

On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

btovsky

some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're
a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and
we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw,
i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
going to happen any time soon.
cheers
bruce

On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
> shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to
> intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
>
> how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> Cc: Kurt Ralske
> Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>
> someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
>
> On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > anyone else using these?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

ppagano

I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals from now on.

I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella.

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Sound and Light Technologist
School of Theatre and Dance
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL USA

-----Original Message-----
From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

btovsky

cyber-plookings???
fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
(fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
slack. your experience may vary.
cheers
b

On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> hi
>
> I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals
> from now on.
>
> I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
> Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>
> some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're
> a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
> development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and
> we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw,
> i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
> going to happen any time soon.
> cheers
> bruce
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
> > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to
> > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
> >
> > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> > Cc: Kurt Ralske
> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> >
> > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
> >
> > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > > anyone else using these?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > University of Florida
> > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

ppagano

I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.

thanks for the replies.

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Sound and Light Technologist
School of Theatre and Dance
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL USA

cyber-plookings???
fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
(fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
slack. your experience may vary.
cheers
b

On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

btovsky

total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.
b

On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on
> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply
> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.
>
> thanks for the replies.
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
> cyber-plookings???
> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
> slack. your experience may vary.
> cheers
> b
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > hi
> >
> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals
> > from now on.
> >
> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome
> fella.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
> > Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> >
> > some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're
> > a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
> > development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and
> > we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-)
> fwiw,
> > i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
> > going to happen any time soon.
> > cheers
> > bruce
> >
> > On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> >
> > > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
> > > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from
> ppc to
> > > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
> > >
> > > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > University of Florida
> > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> > > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> > > Cc: Kurt Ralske
> > > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> > >
> > > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
> > >
> > > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > > > anyone else using these?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > > University of Florida
> > > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > bruce tovsky
> > www.skeletonhome.com
> >
> > "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

vade

Ive actually spoken with Kurt a few times recently pleading with him
to make a 1.6 UB. As Bruce has said, teaching + baby + life gets in
the way.

Ive tried to convince Kurt to create a set of Image Unit plugins -
this would expand the market for AUVI, (Quartz Composer, Modul8,
VDMX, etc), plus GPU accelerate it.

Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of
the functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, bruce tovsky wrote:

> total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.
> b
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
>> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on
>> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply
>> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.
>>
>> thanks for the replies.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> Sound and Light Technologist
>> School of Theatre and Dance
>> University of Florida
>> Gainesville, FL USA
>>
>>
>> cyber-plookings???
>> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
>> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
>> slack. your experience may vary.
>> cheers
>> b
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>>
>> > hi
>> >
>> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals
>> > from now on.
>> >
>> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome
>> fella.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > University of Florida
>> > Gainesville, FL USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
>> > Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>> >
>> > some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when
>> you're
>> > a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
>> > development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise.
>> and
>> > we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-)
>> fwiw,
>> > i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
>> > going to happen any time soon.
>> > cheers
>> > bruce
>> >
>> > On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> >
>> > > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
>> > > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from
>> ppc to
>> > > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
>> > >
>> > > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > > University of Florida
>> > > Gainesville, FL USA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
>> > > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
>> > > Cc: Kurt Ralske
>> > > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>> > >
>> > > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
>> > >
>> > > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
>> > > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
>> > > > anyone else using these?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > > > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > > > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > > > University of Florida
>> > > > Gainesville, FL USA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > bruce tovsky
>> > www.skeletonhome.com
>> >
>> > "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
>> > Albert Einstein
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> bruce tovsky
>> www.skeletonhome.com
>>
>> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
>> Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>>
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>

v a d e //

www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info

keithmanlove

> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of the
> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
working on this. It is max, after all.

Keith

vade

Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and
releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since
transitioning to 1.6/Intel Mac. :)

i too am a paying customer ;)

On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, keith manlove wrote:

>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most
>> of the
>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.
>
>
> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
> working on this. It is max, after all.
>
> Keith

v a d e //

www.vade.info
abstrakt.vade.info

btovsky

well let us know what you come up with...
cheers
bruce

On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:22 PM, vade wrote:

> Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and
> releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since
> transitioning to 1.6/Intel Mac. :)
>
> i too am a paying customer ;)
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, keith manlove wrote:
>
>>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most
>>> of the
>>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
>> working on this. It is max, after all.
>>
>> Keith
>
> v a d e //
>
> www.vade.info
> abstrakt.vade.info
>
>
>

bruce tovsky
www.skeletonhome.com

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
Albert Einstein

Joshua Kit Clayton

Btw, if you're on PPC, you can use third party CFM jitter externals,
if you have CFM support enabled, and have installed jitlib 1.5.3 in /
Library/CFMSupport, but this won't help you if you're on MacTel.

-Joshua