feedback network

Osborne Frit's icon

apologies if this has come up before, i did a search, but i couldnt see anything...

anyway. i have the free pluggo vst's, and i want to see inside them. particularly the feedback network plugin. does anyone know if the code is accessible? or how the plugin works?

thanks

Gregory Taylor's icon

I'm sorry, but the source for the plug-in is not currently
available.

Roman Thilenius's icon
Osborne Frit's icon

huh? that didn't take me anywhere. but then, looking who it's from, it's probably a really clever sarcastic reply that i would never understand anyway, but that actually doesn't have any relevance to anything i said in the first place

got a lot of time on your hands roman? haha

Roman Thilenius's icon

yea that was clear that this happens - sorry there is
a space between "D" and "SP" from posting it into the
forum textfield which you have to remove.

Gregory Taylor's icon

In the absence of the source code, perhaps you
might benefit from asking a more specific question
or two - for example, all of the controls for the Feedback
Network plug-in are [at least, in my opinion] fairly
clearly labeled, and the labels seem to be funtional
descriptions of a section of the patch.

Have you tried reverse engineering the patch yourself?
[That's always a great path toward finding some
thing you didn't expect to find interesting or do,
I find] If you haven't been unsuccessful, what bits of
your imagined reverse-engineered patch are you
having trouble with? As is usually the case, more
specific questions will get you better answers.

Stefan Tiedje's icon

But its a good project to try to redo it...
In the end you'll have a different plugin especially suited to your own
needs. Pluggos are an endless source of inspiration...

Stefan

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Osborne Frit's icon

cheers guys

i'll definately give it a go

roger.carruthers's icon

Have a look at Leafcutter John's Framework project at https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/Leafcutter ; there's a feedback module in there that I made, which might get you started. In this case, it's just a way to feedback a bunch of bpatcher modules into each other, using a matrix, but it's a handy starting point.
It was the basis of a modular Pluggo thing that I started building, called Ms.Modular & Mr.Modulator, which you can find at
http://www.wildfrontear.co.uk/plugs.html . I also made a Pluggo called Rezdelay which you'll find at the same place. It's basically a bunch of tapin/tapout's with resonant filters in the feedback path, which is always a good place to start for feedback noises; if it's the kind of thing you're looking for, I'll see if i can dig out the source,
cheers
Roger

Osborne Frit's icon

thanks a lot. i'll take a look and let you know

thanks again

Osborne Frit's icon

roger -

the rezdelay is a .pi file. what exactly is this?!

thanks

Gregory Taylor's icon
Osborne Frit's icon

oops :)
how do i use it then?

Gregory Taylor's icon

If you're running Pluggo, then you just drop them
into the same folder as your other plug-ins, same
as if you'd created one yourself.

Osborne Frit's icon

oh i see. sorry, not very familar with the whole pluggo thing. i don't have pluggo - does this mean i can't use the plugin? sorry, i 've been trying to read up a little more about it but i can't find much.

roger.carruthers's icon

You at least need the Pluggo Runtime, which is a free
download from
https://cycling74.com/downloads/pluggo , but you
might as well grab a few free plugs whilst you're at
it, by downloading Pluggo Junior,
cheers
Roger

PS. in my Mac-centric arrogance, I forgot to ask what
platform you're on - mine are Mac built, so they wont
run on Windows :-(

--- Osborne Frit wrote:

>
> oh i see. sorry, not very familar with the whole
> pluggo thing. i don't have pluggo - does this mean i
> can't use the plugin? sorry, i 've been trying to
> read up a little more about it but i can't find
> much.
>

Osborne Frit's icon

ah ok. it's mac all the way, don't worry about it :)

Roman Thilenius's icon

noone worries about it anymore dont worry