Blair

I put my pfft~ inside a poly~ so i could send it args messages. This setup seems to work in live 11 but not in live 10. Any other ideas of how I could do this? I've tried having 4 separate polys and muting the voice but it still used CPU even when only 1 of them were on at a time?

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I put my pfft~ inside a poly~ so i could send it args messages. This setup seems to work in live 11 but not in live 10. 

how-to-change-fft-bin-size

that´s been discussed every now and then, and my suggestion is always the same: use 3 parallel polys with different fft sizes set at init.

Yes I tried that but even after muting the polys i didn't want on it still used more CPU than with my current setup. I may have to just resort back to that solution though

okay roman you're right, i must have had my poly set up wrong, i redid it with your method and its working well.

How to change FFT Bin Size?

stefano capas

hello i am building a synth where i have few cycle (some used as lfo) and phasor (also used for lfo and for other modulation). I want to have all of them in sync. I have already a mc.cycle which i can control all the cycle, but what about the phasor?How i could synh the mc.cycle(which may control all the cycles) and the phasors?Thanks

hello i am building a synth where i have few cycle (some used as lfo) and phasor (also used for lfo and for other modulation). 

synching-oscillators

what means sync to you ?
allready 2 cycles with different cycle length need to have common divisor
to run in some kind of relation.
if you start them sending phase offset 0 
they will run in sync


to sync a cycle~ to a phasor~, you have to control the cycle~ using another phasor~.

everything what is based on ramps and counters can be restarted and interrupted - everything else not.

i mean in when they start at 0 they all start at 0, then of course depending on frequencies they mightnot be 0 again. but let's say that one frequency is double of the other, or quarter or similar..the will always meet at certain point for 0. this is what i want, to make sure they keep this kind of sync

synching oscillators

stefano

basically what the titles says, it happens when i load a video AND max audio output is the same of the computer (macbookpro 16" intel 2019 running ventura), it does not happen with AVF, and with jit.movie~ of course.

viddll_bufferSize_bug.mov

basically what the titles says, it happens when i load a video AND max audio output is the same of the computer (macbookpro 16" intel 2019 ... 

jitmovie-with-viddll-forces-max-to-2048-io-vector-size

jit.movie with viddll forces max to 2048 I/O vector size

Mariano Sibilia

I'm trying to find a solution to normalize the audio output level coming from a group of 4 live.gain objects.

Each of these objects is assigned a random value, and the cumulative sum of these values (peak) often fails to reach 0 dB at the plugout object.

The screenshot I attached shows what I think the patch should look like, but it's not working. Any tips on how to achieve a consistent output at 0 dB peak (or -0.5 dB), while maintaining the relative differences between the 4 live.gain values?

Screenshot 2023-12-05 at 14.35.37.png

I'm trying to find a solution to normalize the audio output level coming from a group of 4 live.gain objects. 

Each of these objects is assigned a random value, and the cumulative sum of these values (peak) often fails to reach 0 dB at the plugout object. 

The screenshot I attached shows what I think the patch should look like, but it's not working. Any tips on how to achieve a consistent output at 0 dB peak (or -0.5 dB), while maintaining the relative differences between the 4 live.gain values? 

Hello,
I'm trying to find a solution to normalize the audio output level coming from a group of 4 live.gain objects. 

normalize-audio-output

read normalize~ help file,  keyword is reset

explanation: normalize analyses input levels and calculates max gain.
when you downscale levels using that live.gain things
you have to reset it


yesss, that reset message was what i was missing! you're a legend, thank you sooo much!

Normalize audio output 

Kenneth Hu

Assignment3.maxpat

Hiya! I'me working through my uni assignment and happened upon a helluva hiccup; I may have been severely inefficient with using Vizzie objects for MAX, and now because of their overload, I cannot open this patcher at all. Any suggestions on how to fix/remedy this will be very much appreciated.


 
Hiya! I'me working through my uni assignment and happened upon a helluva hiccup; I may have been severely inefficient with using Vizzie ... 

hooray-i-somehow-managed-to-create-an-eldritch-abomination-that-crashes-the-entirety-of-max-msp-whenever-i-try-to-open-it-any-suggestions-on-how-to-resolve-this-mess

save your subpatchers into individual patchers, and make them efficient.
With efficient I mean : remove that vizzie stuff, delete all unused objecs, like for example  jit.pwindow objects.
-------
why this :

when singe object would do.
sel 300 655 830 935 1316 1897

it means not much for CPU load, but it helps to keep GUI clean.
and so many other little things.
singe line object can replace this metro, counter, mutiplier if ...

can be replaced using singe object jit.xfade
every corner of your patchers need some kind of improvement.

When done, add optimised subptchers again to main patch.
Make sure that only selected module gets enabled for processing audio, video or anything else.




here are fixed main patch and individual subpatchers

just a quick note to say jit.xfade is not a replacement for Vizzie XFADR. Vizzie uses texture operations performed on the GPU and jit.xfade is a matrix op performed on the CPU. See here for more info.  For a replacement of XFADR use jit.gl.pix @gen xfade

1. holding alt (or was it shift?) prevents loadbang from firing.

2. if you suspect a certain object, open the patch in a texteditor and edit it there, for example by replacing [object] with [objectX]

the patch has all  jit.playlists set to output matrix

Hooray! I somehow managed to create an eldritch abomination that crashes the entirety of Max MSP whenever I try to open it! Any suggestions on how to resolve this mess?

Joachim G

Hey forum people, im a student working on a collbrative project. Our aim is to create a simple "Transient Tracker" for a eight speaker multi channel setup.

The core idea is to have a sample/incoming audio in Abelton run trough a Gate with a set threshold, when the amplitude passes the threshold, the gate gives a bang to a sequencer that controls which output speaker the Sample/signal is being played. 

So for every time the threshold is surpassed the output speaker is being changed by the sequenser, preferably it would be possible to program what pattern the device will output signal to, for example: For every "transient/bang" play out of speaker 2, 3, 6, 4, 5, 1, 8, 7 -> 2, 3, 6, 4, 5, 1, 8, 7.

Hope this was understandable, any help would be hugely appreciated!

Hey forum people, im a student working on a collbrative project. Our aim is to create  a simple "Transient Tracker" for a eight speaker multi channel setup.
The core idea is to have a sample/incoming audio in Abelton run trough a Gate with a set threshold, when the amplitude passes the threshold, the gate gives a bang to a sequencer that controls which output speaker the Sample/signal is being played. 
So for every time the threshold is surpassed the output speaker is being changed by the sequenser, preferably it would be possible to program what pattern the device  will output signal to, for example:  For every "transient/bang" play out of speaker 2, 3, 6, 4, 5, 1, 8, 7 ->  2, 3, 6, 4, 5, 1, 8, 7.
Hope this was understandable, any help would be hugely appreciated!

Hey forum people, im a student working on a collbrative project. 

transiet-tracker-in-multichannel-setup

max patch - nothing to do with ableton live ...
simple transient detector,
on each bang counter cycles through list items and so switches speakers.

coll example with creation of random output order lists.



Transiet Tracker in Multichannel setup

Georg Hajdu

 provides standard western music notation in Max/MSP and Ableton Live

MaxScore is a Max Java (mxj) object which accepts messages that can create a musical score, add notes to it, transform the notes, perform, save, and load the score, and export the score to popular formats for professional publishable results.

 is more than a notation tool. It is an interactive performance object. MaxScore can play back a score and drive your MSP patches through an instrument interface. Scores can be created and modified in real-time and rendered as Jitter matrices. You can add notes explicitly by specifying durations, pitches and dynamic, or use Max to generate an arbitrary stream of musical events and use MaxScore’s Transcriber to notate them automatically.

 will give you the power of a notation environment with floating palettes, plugins and graphics with the option to create traditional or graphical scores and to export them to pdf.

MaxScore provides standard western music notation in Max/MSP and Ableton Live

MaxScore is more than a notation tool. It is an interactive performance object. MaxScore can play back a score and drive your MSP patches through an instrument interface. Scores can be created and modified in real-time and rendered as Jitter matrices. You can add notes explicitly by specifying durations, pitches and dynamic, or use Max to generate an arbitrary stream of musical events and use MaxScore’s Transcriber to notate them automatically.

The MaxScore / LiveScore Editors will give you the power of a notation environment with floating palettes, plugins and graphics with the option to  create traditional or graphical scores and to export them to pdf. 

MaxScore provides standard western music notation in Max/MSP and Ableton Live
MaxScore is a Max Java (mxj) object which accepts messages tha

maxscore-1

Zombie thread. Today MaxScore is at Version 2.3.7. Unfortunately the hompage does not offer legacy versions to download. Would somebody know where to find MaxScore compatible with Max/MSP 8.0.5; I'm still operating on OS 10.9.5...

Is MaxScore//LiveScore download still available for Ableton Live 10?

We no longer officially support MaxScore for Ableton Live 10, but it should work if combined with Max 8.

MaxScore: A musical wonderland? 🤔🎵 This Max Java object goes beyond notation, letting you craft musical scores, add notes precisely, and even transform your compositions in real-time. Is it the game-changer you've been searching for in Max/MSP and Ableton Live? 🚀

downloads are still available on the server, I posted once full list
for old releases, don't have that a hand now.
here is one example - latest versions :
http://www.georghajdu.de/computermusicnotation/wopre/wp-content/uploads/Installers/MaxScore-2.4.3-osx-installer.dmg
http://www.georghajdu.de/computermusicnotation/wopre/wp-content/uploads/Installers/MaxScore-2.4.3-windows-installer.exe

you just enter the version you need and download, for example :
http://georghajdu.de/computermusicnotation/wopre/wp-content/uploads/Installers/MaxScore-2.0.5-osx-installer.dmg




As we are constantly performing bug fixes to ensure the best user experience, I wouldn't recommend using older versions. But as I mentioned previously, the combination of Live 10 and Max 8 should work. 

Good morning,

I just downloaded the latest version of MaxScore 2 for Max 4L and Live.

With the oldest version LiveScore worked perfectly and with his new one it's not working. The LiveScore.Editor window doesn't open as well as LiveScore.Viewer doesn't show any score, unlike the previous version. As advised, I first uninstalled the previous version of MaxScore. 

The same happens when I open the devices in Max.

Live version 11.3.13
Max 8.5.6
Mac OS Sonoma 14.0

Best regards

Joao Ferreira

Downloaded from here:

MaxScore/LiveScore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JiYzpJzHo

http://www.computermusicnotation.com/

i don’t have Sonoma installed  and can’t therefore  say with certainty that its not due to the OS. Have you made sure that Java is installed properly? In order to test this, please type mxj fibonacci into an empty object box. Does it instantiate? If so, can you make sure the MaxScore folder is inside Max 8/Packages? It can‘t reside in any other location. If not, you’ll need to install the version of Java that matches your OS. Make sure you don’t run Java for Intel (with Rosetta) when you run  Max natively and vice versa. Please send the content of the Max console upon opening a MaxScore device to georghajdu@mac.com. And let’s continue our conversation via email.  

I can confirm that something is broken. I'll have a fix for you by tomorrow which should be good until the end of the year.

There was a permission issue with two jar files which has been fixed. You can grab the new installer from computermusicnotation.com. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

Hi Georg, Matteo from Italy here!
Thank you for your work with MaxScore, and above all with Livescore, I cannot wait to better engineer my music with some scores on my hand while producing music.
I've got a problem with the version I'm downloading from the official site. I don't have Max installed, but I have the Ableton Live suite updated to today version (11.3.13) and Windows 11 updated to today .
I tried to install MaxScore+LiveScore 2.4.7, then 2.4.8, then 2.4.9. I can see devices inside Ableton but when i press any button to open the editor nothing happens. The Java tester is telling Java and MaxScore are installed correctly. I checked the logs into the device patches and it seems the problem could start here:

"java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/softsynth/jmsl/score/transcribe/TranscriberListener has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 58.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 52.0"

Please be aware I tried to uninstall completely the older version of Java I had, and install only the JDK 
you're giving with the installer. 

Could you help me?
Thank you

I am an Applied Computer Science student in the Netherlands, and have been using Max for my own musical adventures :)

I recently downloaded MaxScore, but I've been having some problems with Java.

When I downloaded the JRE 8, this was the error message I got. 

The software itself needs a Java Runtime (class file version 58.0), while my class file version is (58.0).

Therefore I uninstalled JRE 8, and I installed JDK 21.

Apparently when you install JDK it automatically comes with a JRE.

When I installed JDK I added a new variable in the System Variables and I configured the path.

Unfortunately none of these options worked.

Thank you, and I hope to hear from any of you for help.

Hello Lorenzo, please download the most recent installer. We had an issue with the permissions of the jar files which we fixed in the meantime.  Alternatively you can just set the permissions of both jmsl.jar and jscore.jar to 

Please let me know whether this works for you.
Best,

This obviously applies to a Unix-based system, but maybe you can find the equivalent for Windows.

MaxScore

Lorenzo Dimitri

I am trying to create a Max4Live plugin implementing binaural panning based on HRTFs. I found the binpan~ by Jakob Handersen that works very good in Max but it seems not to work anymore when imported into Ableton/Max4Live nor when connected to the plugin~ input object nor when connected to a sfplay~ object as in the example. 

Sampling frequency is the same in Ableton and for the HRTFs. The folders containing CIPIC HRTF. subjects are the same in Max 8/ packages/

Hello everybody,
I am trying to create a Max4Live plugin implementing binaural panning based on HRTFs. I found the binpan~ by Jakob Handersen that works very good in Max but it seems not to work anymore when imported into Ableton/Max4Live nor when connected to the plugin~ input object nor when connected to a sfplay~ object as in the example. 
Sampling frequency is the same in Ableton and for the HRTFs. The folders containing CIPIC HRTF. subjects are the same in Max 8/ packages/
I do not get it.
Anybody tips? 
Thanks a lot

Hello everybody,
I am trying to create a Max4Live plugin implementing binaural panning based on HRTFs. 

binaural-panning-with-hrtfs

binaural panning with HRTFs

Cookie Jar

i just arrived here, so i don’t know where to look or ask. First of all, thanks for all the great brains overhere that make these things possible! 

i was hoping there would be someone how knows if it’s existing, or even possible, to get an m4l’instrument’ in your track, where you can record multiple modulations in a row, LIVE. and go to a new (track/lane) still on the same stem, and swop between the modulation track with cc? So only the modulation/automation would change, but still sends data to the same controls

where to look? Or maybe this is not possible?

Hello,
i just arrived here, so i don’t know where to look or ask. First of all, thanks for all the great brains overhere  that make these things possible! 
i was hoping there would be someone how knows if it’s existing, or even  possible, to get an m4l’instrument’ in your track, where you can record multiple modulations in a row, LIVE. and go to a new (track/lane) still on the same stem, and swop between the modulation track with cc? So only the modulation/automation would change, but still sends data to the same controls
where to look? Or maybe this is not possible?

Hello,
i just arrived here, so i don’t know where to look or ask. 

how-to-find-a-multi-take-modulation-recorder-or-is-this-not-made-jet

How to find a multi take modulation recorder, or is this not made jet? ;)

Travis Cline

I'm putting a textarea into a jweb -- how can I prevent key presses (s to single the current track, for example) from propagating to Ableton Live while in an input/textarea?

I'm putting a textarea into a jweb -- how can I prevent key presses (s to single the current track, for example) from propagating to ... 

prevent-key-presses-from-propagating-to-ableton-live

Focus to keystrokes should be auto conrolled by host,
in this case Live.

Is your "textarea"  not reporting when being targeted ?


Cycling '74 Forums

okay roman you're right, i must have had my poly set up wrong, i redid it with your method and its working well.

i mean in when they start at 0 they all start at 0, then of course depending on frequencies they mightnot be 0 again.

basically what the titles says, it happens when i load a video AND max audio output is the same of the computer (macbookpro 16" intel 2019 ...

yesss, that reset message was what i was missing! you're a legend, thank you sooo much!

the patch has all jit.playlists set to output matrix

max patch - nothing to do with ableton live ... simple transient detector, on each bang counter cycles through list items and so switches ...

This obviously applies to a Unix-based system, but maybe you can find the equivalent for Windows.

Hello everybody, I am trying to create a Max4Live plugin implementing binaural panning based on HRTFs.

Hello, i just arrived here, so i don’t know where to look or ask.

Focus to keystrokes should be auto conrolled by host, in this case Live. Is your "textarea" not reporting when being targeted ?