Forum issue - Starting new thread - Learn from my mistake

    Feb 01 2006 | 2:17 pm
    Over the years, I've habitually started new threads on the Max/MSP list by hitting reply to anything in my Max/MSP/Jitter mailbox. I then do the obvious of changing the subject line and body.
    This does not work with the new forum.
    Even though the subject line changes, the Forum sees the new email with new subject as a response to the original email and places it in that thread.

    • Feb 01 2006 | 4:11 pm
      It doesn't work with a lot of email clients too. There's another piece of data embedded in an email that can be used to tracks "conversations," regardless of whether the subject changes or not.
    • Feb 01 2006 | 4:11 pm
      This didn't really work with the mailing list either. You've been hidden in my thread view for a long time now, which (sanely) relies on reply-to headers to know which emails are replies to others.
      - John
    • Feb 04 2006 | 8:53 pm
      today i read the forum for the second time after day 1, and noticed how bad forum and mail is working together, too many of us seem to hit reply buttons for starting new posts, and so i do.
      i will miss the email list, but in the next days i will unsubscribe and switch to using the forum only for read and write tasks.
      this does mean that i will no longer be able to read all the wonderful off topic posts in the jitter forum, but it also means my own posts will go into the right thread in the future.
      hopefully many of you will follow.
      - attachement:
    • Feb 05 2006 | 12:48 am
      When I brought this up a year ago, people told me it was the fault of my email client, and that I should stop complaining about it. However, if it isn't obvious by now to everyone that this behavior needs to stop, it never will be. It takes 1/100th of the time you spend typing the body of your email to type the first few letters of "maxmsp" into your To field before autocomplete takes over.
      The reply-to header is a very useful piece of information that can enables forum/list integration go smoothly (you still have issues with quoting versus non-quoting, but if you use threading in your email client, this is negated). Without it, it would be incredibly difficult (you'd have to guess by the subject). To ignore it or abuse it makes the forums and threaded email clients less useful (or worse, unusable, as is now basically the case).
      I know I sound like a whiny brat, but the abuse of reply-to literally doubles the amount of time I have to spend parsing the Max list to find what is interesting/helpful/etc. This is a high volume list, and if I want to look at everything that goes through, threads can knock five minutes off my email time each day and make it less of a hassle as well.
      - John
    • Feb 05 2006 | 10:16 pm
      see john, you name it, quoting and not quoting is the next issue we have when 50% uf us are using the forum and 50% reading mails.
      back in the days noone ever used the archieves for other purposes than searching, and proper threads were not required for that. now many people use the archieves (=forum), because you can also reply here now.
      that why my call for moving to the forum.
      oh and, stop complaining! ;P
      - sabine christiansen 110 (rababababa...)