there is really not much to get specific on that I have not already said, I am trying to find a regular gain object that looks ascetically pleasing. So a the standard gain object functions just looks like either a real gain slider/ or the live gain
Ah ok. I think you should just try using live.gain~ if you're that new to Max and you like the look of the object. I'm still not sure what those missing features could be or whether they really are missing. What I do know is that since the live.gain~ object is based on a GUI element of Ableton Live I doubt you're going to find an external with the same look.