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hey all. I'm trying to make a little abstraction that takes a (signal) gate

in and puts out a ramp (0-1) of length specified in ms.

The solution i'm working with atm uses rampsmooth, but this is problematic

because if the gate is shorter than the desired grain length then the ramp

the other thing i need it to do is that if it gets a second gate before the

first one is complete I want it to ignore the second gate and just complete

hey all.  I'm trying to make a little abstraction that takes a (signal) gate
in and puts out a ramp (0-1) of length specified in ms.

The solution i'm working with atm uses rampsmooth, but this is problematic
because if the gate is shorter than the desired grain length then the ramp
is too short.

the other thing i need it to do is that if it gets a second gate before the
first one is complete I want it to ignore the second gate and just complete
the ramp.

gate-ramp-adsr

If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re after, why not use matrix~ ?

If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re after, why not use matrix~ ?
Cheers
Roger


sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate. In this case I want to use a comparator

to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~ => (rampy

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <

> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re after,

sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate.  In this case I want to use a comparator
to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~ => (rampy
thingy) => wave~

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <
roger.carruthers@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re after,
> why not use matrix~ ?
> Cheers
> Roger
>
>
>

blast, adsr~ doesn't work cuz it decays when the gate goes away.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM, George Locke <

> sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate. In this case I want to use a comparator

> to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~ => (rampy

> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <

> roger.carruthers@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM, George Locke <
george.locke.maxmsp@gmail.com> wrote:

> sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate.  In this case I want to use a comparator
> to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~ => (rampy
> thingy) => wave~
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <
> roger.carruthers@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re
>> after, why not use matrix~ ?
>> Cheers
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>
>

So I found a solution that solved part of the problem: comparator ->

change~ -> ==~ -1 -> rampsmooth~ X 0 -> +~ 1

This will make a fixed length ramp from 0 to 1.

What I haven't solved is preventing the ramp from retriggering.

The first thing I thought of was to put a ==~0 on the ramp and use this to

control a gate~ between the comparator and the change~ object, but max

doesn't allow this kind of feedback without tapin/out. If it comes down to

it, using tapin would not be such a big deal since retriggers less than a

signal vector apart won't be necessary, but i'm wondering if there is a more

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:28 AM, George Locke <

> blast, adsr~ doesn't work cuz it decays when the gate goes away.

> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM, George Locke <

>> sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate. In this case I want to use a

>> comparator to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~

>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <

>> roger.carruthers@btinternet.com> wrote:

>>> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re

So I found a solution that solved part of the problem:  comparator ->
change~ -> ==~ -1 -> rampsmooth~ X 0 -> +~ 1

The first thing I thought of was to put a ==~0 on the ramp and use this to
control a gate~ between the comparator and the change~ object, but max
doesn't allow this kind of feedback without tapin/out.  If it comes down to
it, using tapin would not be such a big deal since retriggers less than a
signal vector apart won't be necessary, but i'm wondering if there is a more
elegant solution?

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:28 AM, George Locke <
george.locke.maxmsp@gmail.com> wrote:

> blast, adsr~ doesn't work cuz it decays when the gate goes away.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM, George Locke <
> george.locke.maxmsp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> sorry, i meant gate as in cv/gate.  In this case I want to use a
>> comparator to trigger sample playback for granulation. noise~ => sah~ => >~
>> => (rampy thingy) => wave~
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:04 AM, roger.carruthers <
>> roger.carruthers@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If it’d just a gate~ with variable ramp time that you’re
>>> after, why not use matrix~ ?
>>> Cheers
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

running up against this issue again. the problem with the rampsmooth method is that you can't control the length of the ramp via signals. I want to change the ramp length at each trigger for granular synthesis.

again, what i'm after is a way to create a ramp from 0 to 1 triggered by a signal pulse, as from change~. I may just have to write my own external. ug.

running up against this issue again.  the problem with the rampsmooth method is that you can't control the length of the ramp via signals.  I want to change the ramp length at each trigger for granular synthesis.

again, what i'm after is a way to create a ramp from 0 to 1 triggered by a signal pulse, as from change~.  I may just have to write my own external.  ug.


it looks like if I want to control the ramp time in milliseconds i'll have to to do some signal division (to convert period to frequency), but this should do the trick perfectly.

gate -> ramp, adsr?