help to fatten up my kick drum sound?

Cant seem to open your patch,

Generally I find eq'ing so it peaks between 100 and 140 comes through on bigger speakers. And use a limiter maybe, think there's a limiter/compressor patch in the max documentation that might help.

Jay Bodley skrev:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to fatten up my kick drum sound a bit, but not knowing exactly how to proceed. I've posted my usual way of synthesizing kick drums, which sounds fine on little speakers but on larger speakers sorta lacks that fat oomph that is so essential. What should I do?
Jay,
There's plenty of low end in the kick you posted - try lowering to midi
note 40, or working more on the pitch envelope.

But first of all I'd like to know what you mean by "fat oomph"? A lot of
times what people hear as "phatness" is the noise and higher
frequencies", not the other way around. Have you tried layering with a
crackly old vinyl breakbeat sample?

Andreas.

i find a bit of saturation / distortion (overdrive~) acts as a sorta limiter, and gives the kick more punch. i would also second the EQ

j

Are there any Max patches or externals out there that do
saturation/distortion/compression?

Quote: Karaokaze wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 10:58
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> I'm basically saying the same thing as seanzshow. But for quick eq try attaching a filtergraph~ object to a biquad~(like in the filtergraph~ help-file) and use a peak-notch filter setting to sweep a peak anywhere between 20Hz and 200Hz to see what you like. (Lower frequencies really show-up well in subwoofers so you might actually want a couple peaks or a low-shelf). Also, definitely use a limiter after everything or think about using the omx style objects(like omx.4band~/omx.5band~/omx.peaklim~...).
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Where to find the omx objects? The maxobjects page just sends me to cycling74 and when i run a search all i get is forum posts that mention omx.

Quote: Karaokaze wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 10:58
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> I'm basically saying the same thing as seanzshow. But for quick eq try attaching a filtergraph~ object to a biquad~(like in the filtergraph~ help-file) and use a peak-notch filter setting to sweep a peak anywhere between 20Hz and 200Hz to see what you like. (Lower frequencies really show-up well in subwoofers so you might actually want a couple peaks or a low-shelf). Also, definitely use a limiter after everything or think about using the omx style objects(like omx.4band~/omx.5band~/omx.peaklim~...).
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Where to find the omx objects? The maxobjects site just sends me to cycling74 and when I run a search all i get is forum posts mentioning omx.

Hi,

they are included with Max/Msp.

All the best

--
Alessandro Fogar

http://www.fogar.it

2008/7/22 Jay Bodley :
>
> Quote: Karaokaze wrote on Mon, 21 July 2008 10:58
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>> I'm basically saying the same thing as seanzshow. But for quick eq try attaching a filtergraph~ object to a biquad~(like in the filtergraph~ help-file) and use a peak-notch filter setting to sweep a peak anywhere between 20Hz and 200Hz to see what you like. (Lower frequencies really show-up well in subwoofers so you might actually want a couple peaks or a low-shelf). Also, definitely use a limiter after everything or think about using the omx style objects(like omx.4band~/omx.5band~/omx.peaklim~...).
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>
> Where to find the omx objects? The maxobjects page just sends me to cycling74 and when i run a search all i get is forum posts that mention omx.
>

On 22 juil. 08, at 15:14, Jay Bodley wrote:

> Where to find the omx objects? The maxobjects site just sends me to
> cycling74 and when I run a search all i get is forum posts
> mentioning omx.

They're part of the distribution since Max 4.5. So if you type
omx.peaklim~ for instance, it should appear.

ej