how to simulate a human heart beat?

bart at max (previously BITter)'s icon

Hi,

I want to simulate with max msp (human body) sounds.
But i am not a sound engineer. :?

Mainly i am searching for a way to simulate a heart beat and the beep sound from an ECG (elektrocardiogram).
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrocardiogram
+ heart beat soundfile in attachment

Tips, trics, tutorials or ... are all welkom.

Thanks, bart

Samuel Freeman's icon

have you seen the EKG patcher in multislider.help?

Max Patch
Copy patch and select New From Clipboard in Max.

On 23/09/2007, bart wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to simulate with max msp (human body) sounds.
> But i am not a sound engineer. :?
>
>
> Mainly i am searching for a way to simulate a heart beat and the beep sound from an ECG (elektrocardiogram).
> > http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrocardiogram
> + heart beat soundfile in attachment
>
> Tips, trics, tutorials or ... are all welkom.
>
>
>
> Thanks, bart
>
>
>
>

julien breval's icon

Maybe a clich

generalh's icon

i remember playing around with 2d.wave~ using it could be a goodway~
especially in low values
DJ YO

julien breval's icon

also a bass drum sample (not the ones of the GM tones) with a kind of amplitude envelope for attenuating the attack

Wetterberg's icon

I'd just sequence it - cut the du-dunk of the heart sound in two, and
then just trigger them like a regular sample - no need to reinvent the
wheel, provided you find the right sounds.

bart at max (previously BITter)'s icon

Thank you all for nice and fast reply!

I gonna try:

"...using some kind of impulse (with click~, for example) and a static lowpass filter with the cutoff between 50 and 200 Hz (try) and some resonance (try to increase Q from 0.7 to 10, for example)."
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"... 2d.wave~ using it could be a goodway~ ..."
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"... I'd just sequence it - cut the du-dunk of the heart sound in two, and then just trigger them like a regular sample - no need to reinvent the wheel, provided you find the right sounds."

I sequence already heartbeat samples but i wanna create it so that i have more control over it plus a clear sound. Because i have find after hours of research on internet only and a lot of heartbeat samples with a lot of noise on the background.

Is there somebody out there how has a url or clear heart beat samples?

Grzz, Bart

Pierre Alexandre Tremblay's icon

> du-dunk of the heart sound

In French, it would be P'-P'm

Sorry or my morning indiscipline...

pa

Joseph Hyde's icon

Samuel, could you possibly re-post your ECG patch?
Does't work at present, I think there are maybe some lines missing from the text?

Cheers..

bart at max (previously BITter)'s icon

It is also in the multislider.help like Samuel has sayed.

I can't use it but maybe you.
I haven't had the time to test the other tips.

"... du-dunk of the heart sound In French, it would be P'-P'm ..."
In dutch it will be bu-bunk. :)

Grzz, Bart

Joseph Hyde's icon

I think it's a modified form of the helpfile though - the original patch has no audio!

julien breval's icon

the simplest way is probably to use a square or rectangle wave at very low frequency (about 1Hz) and tune the pulse width correctly

you may add a lp filter too (with some low frequency resonance) ...

Stefan Tiedje's icon

bart schrieb:
> Is there somebody out there how has a url or clear heart beat
> samples?

Search for sounds at http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/

Stefan

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ehdyn's icon

Pink noise a.k.a 1/f noise.

" In biological systems, it is present in heart beat rhythms and the statistics of DNA sequences."
-wikipedia
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise

"The time series made up of intervals between successive R peaks (reflecting muscle contractions) of the electrocardiogram of the human heart has an approximately power spectrum; the slope of the log-log plot in Figure 2C is about 1.075 over several decades of frequency."
-Scholarpedia
Link: http://www.scholarpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=1/f_Noise&redirect=no

Sound sample attached.

Note: Filtration of "white" noise is only an approximation.

ehdyn

jbm's icon