anyone got any knowledge on humanizing a tempo or metronome count.

I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm building for a uni project...

Recently got myself max/msp and recently started a uni module on it...suffice to say all other work/social/romantic life has now flown right out of the window......

Cheers in advance for anyone who has the power of knowledge...

its now 4:21 am and my brain is broken...

anyone got any knowledge on humanizing a tempo or metronome count.
I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm building for a uni project...

Recently got myself max/msp and recently started a uni module on it...suffice to say all other work/social/romantic life has now flown right out of the window......
Great.

Cheers in advance for anyone who has the power of knowledge...
its now 4:21 am and my brain is broken...

humanizing-tempo

> I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm building for a uni project...

Just use [Delay]. So the 'direct' Bang (with no delay) would trigger the 

beat, the delayed Bang would trigger the offbeat.

Tim Harris wrote:
> Hello peeps,
>
> I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm building for a uni project...
Hi Tim, hi list

Just use [Delay]. So the 'direct' Bang (with no delay) would trigger the 
beat, the delayed Bang would trigger the offbeat.

make any kind of a phasor~ controlled sequencer and then LFO the phasor~ frequency. use rate~ to get a few instances of the phasor~ then amplify the LFO to whichever one you want swinged more. this will give you much tighter swing than working in the scheduler domain. kinda less control from a certain point of view, but from another - more.

Nothing more human than a little booze. How about multiplying a little drunk into the metro rate?

Nothing more human than a little booze.  How about multiplying a little drunk into the metro rate?


Here's a system I've used in the past for a 16 step

I'll leave you to work out what it's doing, but don't

forget that if it's for a Uni project, you should

I don't know whether your institution's plagiarism

software checks this list, but I would be surprised if

> > I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the

> sequencer I'm building for a uni project...

Here's a system I've used in the past for a 16 step
drum machine.
I'll leave you to work out what it's doing, but don't
forget that if it's for a Uni project, you should
quote your source.
 I don't know whether your institution's plagiarism
software checks this list, but I would be surprised if
your lecturer doesn't ;-)
cheers
Roger

> Tim Harris wrote:
> > Hello peeps,
> >
> > I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the
> sequencer I'm building for a uni project...
> Hi Tim, hi list
>


Here's one way of randomising the beat slightly which I used in a 

| [brownian 1. 3.5 0.65] (from the rtc lib)

You could (off the top of my head) also use counter and coll - set the 

counter to give you the sub-divisions of the bar and store a series of 

fixed delay settings for each subdivision of the beat in coll. Use a 

multislider to change the delay settings stored in coll.

Of course this only allows you to delay the beat. You could get round 

that by having the master clock running ahead of time by putting the 

main clock pulse through a global delay value, in effect making the 

whole patch run slightly "behind time" (or the main clock "ahead" of 

time) so that a delay value of zero means that the clock pulse is 

slightly ahead of the "bar line". I guess you could say that you've 

introduced a degree of latency between the main clock pulse and the 

main sequencer patch. Does that make sense? I've not built this 

myself, but it's how I was thinking of solving the problem for the way 

I work - there may well be more elegant solutions around!

On 7 Mar 2008, at 04:22, Tim Harris wrote:

> anyone got any knowledge on humanizing a tempo or metronome count.

> I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm 

> Recently got myself max/msp and recently started a uni module on 

> it...suffice to say all other work/social/romantic life has now 

> Cheers in advance for anyone who has the power of knowledge...

> its now 4:21 am and my brain is broken...

Here's one way of randomising the beat slightly which I used in a  
sequencer like patch I built.

You could (off the top of my head) also use counter and coll - set the  
counter to give you the sub-divisions of the bar and store a series of  
fixed delay settings for each subdivision of the beat in coll. Use a  
multislider to change the delay settings stored in coll.
Of course this only allows you to delay the beat. You could get round  
that by having the master clock running ahead of time by putting the  
main clock pulse through a global delay value, in effect making the  
whole patch run slightly "behind time" (or the main clock "ahead" of  
time) so that a delay value of zero means that the clock pulse is  
slightly ahead of the "bar line". I guess you could say that you've  
introduced a degree of latency between the main clock pulse and the  
main sequencer patch. Does that make sense? I've not built this  
myself, but it's how I was thinking of solving the problem for the way  
I work - there may well be more elegant solutions around!

>
> Hello peeps,
>
> anyone got any knowledge on humanizing a tempo or metronome count.
> I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm  
> building for a uni project...
>
> Recently got myself max/msp and recently started a uni module on  
> it...suffice to say all other work/social/romantic life has now  
> flown right out of the window......
> Great.
>
> Cheers in advance for anyone who has the power of knowledge...
> its now 4:21 am and my brain is broken...
>
> Oh and hello..
>
> Tim


Thanks guys, thats given me plenty to think about for the weekend...

I'm sure all of this is going to be useful, if not in this patch but others to come...

Thats what I'm loving about max, the sheer amount of different ways/tools/techniques that you could use for something like this...

Thanks guys, thats given me plenty to think about for the weekend...
I'm sure all of this is going to be useful, if not in this patch but others to come...
Thats what I'm loving about max, the sheer amount of different ways/tools/techniques that you could use for something like this...

Quote: DF wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 20:22

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I made a big tempo world, and the outdated web pages are here:

http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/library/max_msp_jitter_depot/modules_building_blocks_mmj_depot/timing/stepmetro

If you get this thing, there's a subpatcher in sub-beat.help that demonstrates swing. The tempo doesn't change, but the microtimings on each subdivision can be altered.

Quote: DF wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 20:22
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> Hello peeps,
>
> anyone got any knowledge on humanizing a tempo or metronome count.
> I would like to utilize a 'swing' control on the sequencer I'm building for a uni project...
>
>

If you get this thing, there's a subpatcher in sub-beat.help that demonstrates swing.  The tempo doesn't change, but the microtimings on each subdivision can be altered.

Humanizing tempo