these things (your examples) _are already very complicated models.

but let me try to give 2 examples of basic structures.

one thing often involved is a feedback loop similar to the

one you are doing with tapin/tapout when making an echo effect,

the other idea would be the excitation of resonance models,

such as sending a noiseburst or a click into [resonators~] or

[comb~]s.

many things for complex models are probably easier to program

on a lower level than max (for multirate abilities for example)

but that doesnt mean it wont be fun to try something.

-110

p.s.: oh and not to forget: AM and FM!

hello,

i don't know much about it, but julius o smith has a page:

and

and perry cook of stk fame has some references, but i can't find them..

also dan stowell has this (specifically for supercollider) cymbal synthesis tutorial, you could apply the same principles to your work in max:

but don't ask me cos i'm a complete newb to max..

cheers,,

For Perry Cook's stuff, get his book:

brad

For instance I'd like to know how you could simulate a hit on wood or on metal. Or to synthesise something like grating on a rusty plate.

Just some links about impact sounds synthesis :

If you search "karplus strong" in the forum you'll find a few good examples of plucked string physical modelling synthesis. Kapling is a good example.

lh

An other book, by Stephan Bilbao. There's some free samples and sound examples here :