Individual Note-Off problem

Ady

Hi!

I want to use my MIDI Keyboard to play samples with MAX.

I'm having problems separating note on and off:

I want to use :

1. Note C1 as trigger ( no note off ) - I use strip note to ignore note off,
2. Note C2 as Note On and Off - I want the sound to be played as I hold the note, and to stop the sound when I release my finger from the note.

The problem is when I play and hold C2 and press and release note C1, my C1 sends note-off on both notes (C1 and C2).

How can I manage note off for each note separately ( C1 and C2 ) ?

Thank you.

Jean-Francois Charles

Ady

Sorry - I'm new in Max -

Can you explain more?

Maybe an exemple.

Thank you.

Peter Castine

>> The problem is when I play and hold C2 and press and release note C1,
>> my C1
>> sends note-off on both notes (C1 and C2).

Are you sure this isn't something your keyboard is doing? (Local
control).

Suggest posting a short patch with your attempt. If it works for other
people, then you know it's your keyboard. If it doesn't work for
others, it will be easier to see why.

-- P.

Ady

STORY:

I have two sliders and two bangs.
I need to send note On and note-Off to the sliders (126/0),
and note on (only note on) to the two bangs.

Problem #1:

When receiving, note off is sent on both the sliders even if there is sent to the notes who control the bangs:
(It looks like message "note-off", is a message that it is sent by all midi notes, but it is an overall message ).

Another thing:

If I'm using midi in and midiout, and I'm playing with my keyboard, I can hold notes, send note on and note off to midiout.

How can I use this in my patch without having problems with "overall note-off"...???

Problem #2:

As you will see in the patch, the bang from the sliders (just before the message "0", it is active when I release the note but it is not sending "bang")...and when I press with my mouse on him, it does sends "bang"...is this a BUG ?

OK here is the patch that's making me problems:

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Please help.
Thank you!

mzed

Does this work for you?

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Sydney Bristow

Dear Ady,

Without getting into the details of exactly what you’re trying to accomplish there seems to be a “bug” in the way you handle the data coming out of the left “noteout” object.

You’re sending the pitch AND the velocity from a “notein” object to the same “select” object without turning this date into a list first. This fits the description of comparing apples with oranges because the “select” object has no way to differentiate whether a particular item is pitch or velocity (in theory there could be pitch 48 or velocity 48).

What I would suggest on that left “notein” is first to determine whether the “pitch” is of interest to you (using a “select” only on the incoming pitches) – if so then do what needs to be done depending on the velocity.

Sydney B.

Ady

Thank you mzed !

That patch work in 90%.

The problem is with the sliders separation:

When I hit and hold notes C1 and D1, and release ONLY ONE of them, both sliders go down:

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Ady

OK I got it.

Thank you all.

Stefan Tiedje

Ady wrote:
> The problem is when I play and hold C2 and press and
> release note C1, my C1 sends note-off on both notes (C1 and C2).

I bet this is a missinterpretation, no keyboard I know would do that.
An example patch would show the problem (select all with the open patch,
and then paste it into the e-mail)

In general you would have to split or route the note events before you
strip anything. Example:

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Stefan Tiedje
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