Iterative Feedback Oscillator
I found a pdf on how to make this today. Very simple but very nice sounding oscillator method using feedback. Sounds almost analogue. Im curious if anyone else knows about any cool methods to do feedback osc. I have a JP-8000 which has a really unique feedback osc and Ive always tried to figure out how to make it in max to no avail.
000.iterative_oscillator
000.Iterative_wapper
just made this too, after the Jp-8000 supersaw. Man Im on a roll :D
TRANCE RAVE!!
very nice sound :-)
f.e
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Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> I found a pdf on how to make this today. Very simple but very nice sounding oscillator method using feedback. Sounds almost analogue. Im curious if anyone else knows about any cool methods to do feedback osc. I have a JP-8000 which has a really unique feedback osc and Ive always tried to figure out how to make it in max to no avail.
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> #P user hslider 86 102 19 300 128 1 0 0;
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nice too, but there's an annoying glitch at the end of each ramp...
f.e
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
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Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> just made this too, after the Jp-8000 supersaw. Man Im on a roll :D
> TRANCE RAVE!!
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ramp?
when the lfo's up
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
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Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> ramp?
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LFO?
hehe
seriously though theres no lfo, or ramps.. and Im not sure what glitch your refering too as on my comp I hear no glitches... Id love to fix it if I knew what it was.
The sliders are the detune and mix of detuned oscs.. is it adjusting one of those that causes the glitch?
The second slider acts as an lfo modifier, conceptually i mean. When it
reaches its highest value, the sound is ugly; like interrupting.
Happends always in such cases. Just limit its highest value if you can.
cheers
f.e
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> LFO?
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> seriously though theres no lfo, or ramps.. and Im not sure what glitch your refering too as on my comp I hear no glitches... Id love to fix it if I knew what it was.
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> The sliders are the detune and mix of detuned oscs.. is it adjusting one of those that causes the glitch?
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funny, I opened it back up and I see what your talking about, though this wasn't happenening when I made it. What is happening is the oscillators are in sync and are hitting some kind of wave phasing. I can fix this by just setting the detune of the oscs to less even numbers thus putting them out of sync. :::
Here.
Yep. That was what i was talking about. Cheers
f.e
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:
> funny, I opened it back up and I see what your talking about, though this wasn't happenening when I made it. What is happening is the oscillators are in sync and are hitting some kind of wave phasing. I can fix this by just setting the detune of the oscs to less even numbers thus putting them out of sync. :::
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