[jit.cellblock], [coll] and empty cells, Max4 & Max5

pdelges's icon

Hi,

With Max4 in some situations, when I edit a [jit.cellblock] (erasing
cells) which refers to a [coll], I get an invalide coll file, looking
like

1, blah;
2, 3, 4, foo;
5, bar;

Trying to understands what happens, I tried to erase cells in
[jit.cellblock]' [p coll_connection] help files and noticed that some
cells were impossible to erase totally: when you select them you can
always find a space when you use the left/rigt arrows (when you click
on them, they turn into your OS' selection color rather than
[jil.cellcblock]'s selection color).

So I tried in Max5 (and discovered [jit.cellblock] has no rounded
corners ;-). In the same help patch, it is simply impossible to erase
a cell. And if you create a row like:

666 foo bar yo

it will be represented in the [coll] as 666, foo bar yo (note the 2
spaces between bar and yo) and once your reload the [coll] file,
you'll get of course a row like:

666 foo bar yo

So, I must be missing something obvious or there is a problem with
empty cells in [jit.cellblock].

_____________________________
Patrick Delges

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl
http://www.crfmw.be/max

Ben Bracken's icon

Hi Patrick,

It is a little unclear what exactly the desired results vs the actual results are here. If you think you have found an issue with jit.cellblock, go ahead and send a simple example patch with numbered steps to reproduce the issue to support at cycling74 dot com.

Thanks!
-Ben

pdelges's icon

On 05-juin-08, at 20:40, Ben Bracken wrote:

> It is a little unclear what exactly the desired results vs the actual
> results are here. If you think you have found an issue with
> jit.cellblock, go ahead and send a simple example patch with numbered
> steps to reproduce the issue to support at cycling74 dot com.

Sorry for being unclear. The issue are slightly different in Max4 and
Max5, but as I recently read that Max4 is legacy, I suppose I should
only concentrate on Max5, which is not a priority for me as me for my
current project, I need to use SDII files and so use Max4 and find
workarounds to my [jit.cellblock] problem...

I'll do a formal bugreport as soon as I find the time. I first wrote to
the list as this may be a known issue, or a feature, or just something
I missed.

More tomorrow!

p