Max for live - no audio?

Villan's icon

Sorry in advance for being a pain here, I've been searching all day to find a solution but with no luck. I've recently started to use max for live and everything is going well, apart from one thing, I get no audio output from m4l. I've checked my settings, reinstalled max msp and searched google for answers.
I've been following some tutorials to aid me in the device I want to build, an integral piece of this is the ability to store and play back a sample, and all of the tutorials show signal and audio being outputted and even following these tut's exactly I get nothing. Now because I have more than that going on in max I decided to just set up an simple one with nothing else but I still get nothing back. Example, http://compusition.com/web/tutorials/max/stepler/1 I followed this tutorial, as well as others but I'm left wondering why nothing is working. Is there something I have overlooked possibly? Or a known issue perhaps?
In regards to setting up max for live. It's version 5.1.9, I'm on mac os mountain lion late 2011 macbook pro if that helps.
Apologies for the rookie question that will most likely leave me kicking myself when someone tells me the answer :)

nick rothwell | project cassiel's icon

OK, stupid question: you have built an Audio Device (or Instrument) and not a MIDI Device, yes? :-)

Are you seeing any activity on the VU meters in the right hand margin of the device?

Villan's icon

Hi yes it was an audio/instrument device but I figured out the problem and it was a definite schoolboy error :/
I had been following some max msp tutorials to get to grips with some features and terms but of course max msp is a little different to M4L in the sense that they do not have 'plugout' - so I couldn't see where I was going wrong.
I've just redone a simple patch with an SFplay going into a live meter then to 'plugout' and I'm getting sound now. Excuse my schoolboy error :)

Thankyou for the response anyway it is much appreciated

isthisoneok's icon

I also get no sound, running Ableton Live 9, Mac OSX 10.6.8.

The meter reader on the left in the instrument is working when I hit a key but no sound coming out? Any ideas?

Thanks

Cphas's icon

Ok so the meter on the left means that MIDI data is definitely going in but there are a whole host of things that could have gone wrong from that point. Could you post your patch for us to have a look at it would be much easier to diagnose the problem then. Just to clarify there's absolutely notion happening on the meters on the right side of the device?

greyscallion's icon

Hi,

Apologies for the noobishness but I think I'm having a similar problem. I've been following the tutorials in the "Max/MSP/Jitter for Music" book but am having trouble with some stuff I've been building in Max for Live. I'm using my computer keyboard as a MIDI controller and Max for Live as an audio effect. I have been following tutorials to build a MIDI looper, but the patch does not seem to work (i.e. it doesn't record or playback the phrases I play).

I reckon it's a really basic and obvious error that anybody with even a cursory knowledge of Max should be able to help me with. I've attached a picture of the patch in question, and any help given here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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greyscallion's icon

Can anybody help me with this?

greyscallion's icon

Would really appreciate some help..

Cphas's icon

Hey Greyscallion it looks like you've created an audio device which can't send or receive MIDI if you put that code in a MIDI device it should work

Kaito Defoort's icon

Hi There, i seem to be having the same problem. I tried them both in an audio channel and midi channel.

Anybody know the problem?

Hossein Khordechi's icon

Hello,
I have a problem with Max live 8.11, I have no output when I open Max inside the Ableton live 11 but when I open Max separately everything is fine, the problem is that the only sound driver the Max recognises is Live, there is no other options (audio interfaces which I can choose). I need to tell you after updating the Max version to 8.5.5 even in the Max separately doesn't work anymore, I have only Live driver now!
Can you please help me fix this problem? I attached a screenshot!
Thanks in advance
11H

Namakemon's icon

Objects like dac~ and ezdac~ only work in Max standalone, not Max For Live.

Max For Live devices are basically plugins and use the plugout~ object instead for output.

JJ Dunlap's icon

Hey Namakemon,

Does that mean that the following Max MIDI Effect should be sending audio? (I'm in Max for Live, I copied from the "saw~" object help-patch, and exchanged the ezdac~ for a plugout~. Is this more for Max Audio Instruments? I'm still not getting any sound and I noticed that when (in the saw~ help-patch) I have the ezdac~ attached, I at least get audio signal in the bottom right meter (no sound, see above Mac user's "Live"-only Audio Output issue). But, when I exchange said ezdac~ for a plugout~ there's zero signal output (and of course no audio still). Any guesses? I'm wildly new at this and the tutorials seem to be all over the place with how different Max 8 and Max for Live can be (forum deep dives have turned up nothing regarding certain midiinfo-to-umenu MIDI input/Output as well - not seeing my 12 MIDI controllers regardless of being turned on in preferences and Audio MIDI Setup Utility, but that's another problem altogether).

Cheers!

JJ

JJ Dunlap's icon

Okay, got sound out of it. The only thing I can think I might've done is deleting the ezdac~, removing any midi based objects and placing it in an audio channel. It is giving me audio straight to the Master (not its audio track, however, which is interesting).

Anyway, thanks haha. Please excuse the newbness.