Max5 - worth the upgrade?
I'm contemplating the upgrade, but what I've seen so far is purely UI improvements.
I'm going to download the demo shortly, but wondered if anyone can elaborate on other improvements.
Does 5 work with Pluggo?
Thanks.
It's a massive "usability" upgrade. There's some new "new" stuff, but
mostly it's all about making things more efficient. The interface is
over-hauled, but it's been mostly steps in the right direction. Making
things more refined, getting rid of old stuff that doesn't work in Max
anymore, and adding some big time-saving changes. They were right on the
money when they described it like going from Mac OS 9 - X.
What 5 is and isn't:
perhaps this will help you to make an informed decision.
5 and 4 can be run on the same machine [with only a little
preparation, since I went the route of separating the
file preferences stuff completely to avoid trouble]. So far,
the main problem has been RSD when I go back to 4.x and
hit all those snazzy keyboard shortcuts and nothing happens.
But I expect your mileage may vary.
Adam Mokan schrieb:
> Does 5 work with Pluggo?
no!
Its still worth the upgrade unless all of your work is utilizing pluggo...
Stefan
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Quote: santan wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 03:44
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> I'm contemplating the upgrade, but what I've seen so far is purely UI improvements.
It's a lot more than just UI "improvements".
Get informed. There is a lot of info on the C74 website.
Including videos even..
> Does 5 work with Pluggo?
Not yet. But it will, of course.
Work with the demo for 30 days. Who cares if it is worth it to others? Is it worth it to you? Zooming, presentation mode, file browser, debugging, the list goes on - there is a lot to discover.
regards,
kjg
Definitely worth it! You can use 4.6 for pluggo until it is
ready in Max5.
hmm ...and will be the PLUGGO update for free ?
bd
Quote: kjg wrote on Tue, 29 April 2008 16:22
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> It's a lot more than just UI "improvements".
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Right, the word "improvements" does not fit. But for the average User is Max5 defininitely an UI upgrade. Not only the new look but the integrated documentation, the better organisation, the helpers, the preferences, all belongs to the UI, the User Interface.
In other words, you won't see much of a functional difference but you experience a new handling.
To be honest, I don't like the new look and the far too big icons which are not more clear despite of their size. I don't like the the overall greyish and blurry image. I dislike a lot in Max5 and since it is a kind of graphic program (regarding the UI) I wish the developers had studied OmniGraffle and adopt some basic functions of it. But I love the new handling very much. And of course, as a beginner I have these assistance bubbles always on. They save me hours, because I am not familiar with the functions of the different in- and outputs.
I wonder if power users with their dense patches are similar happy. The patches can easily get twice as big. And those who make user interfaces may not like the amply whitespace around all text.
To add a little sarcasm, I see Max5 as a real "modern" program. A blurry interface, it wants me to configure it myself via numerous preference boxes, uses this ridiculous and ugly black transparent windows per default (at least on the Mac) and tries to look like the interface of the Mac itself. I will soon need number stickers on my monitors to tell which windows belong to which application. And eyeglasses of course. I heard that special high-contrast glasses and attachable mechanical screen dividers will be delivered with all new Macs in the future ...
But however, it is of course worth the upgrade. Not only because future additions will exclusively work in Max5, but also because the usability is dramatically better. Congratulations to Cycling74.
P.S.: Max5 is currently the only program I own that does not have problems with the Mac's window layering system. All others fight against strange behavior of floating windows, require additional clicks to get the correct focus and so on. I thought nobody will ever get this under full control. But Cycling did, obviously.
??? the old interface looks bloody awful IMHO - old, out of date - the new GUI is beautiful - but yes with big patches you might need a big monitor........
yes! I was on the fence about the new look before the release, but now I love it. After spending a week with Max 5, it is really hard to look at the old 4 GUI.
the only thing i don't like so far is that everything seems a bit jerky, like resizing windows, moving objects around, locking unlocking patchers, moving between viewing modes, all seem to be less immediate and more jerky that with Max 4. annoying, but the improvements to the interface outweigh this.
and i'm waiting for the ability to build plugins of course.