Max6 is so slow on Retina Macbook Pro

wiccy's icon

I just recently upgrade to a 15" retina mbp from my late 2011 13" macbook pro.

The computer is lightening fast for most things but only not Max6.

On max6 it is soooo slow that even moving an object or a patcher window around are so sluggish. This makes using it really painful. Making object connections is the worst bit.

Anybody has any idea why this happens? I reinstalled the software but nothing changed.

Thanks all.

matteopennese's icon

Be sure that Max is running at low resolution… ('Get Info' on the Max Application and check 'Open in Low Resolution')

matteo

Philippe OLLIVIER's icon

Hi,
I recently found out that my patches make max 6.1 very slow in retina if they contains a lot of bpatcher containing lots of UI objects and with a lot of meter~ or waveform~ on of the patches. If I erase all meter~ and waveform~ objects, everything is ok.
As soon as audio is of, everything is also ok.
Working in low resolution can be a solution, but in fact, i think the issue also affect Max 6.1 in low resolution but it is less sensible...
Philippe

davidestevens's icon

I agree with Philippe that things generally seem to be much slower in 6.1 (this is also on a retina MacBook). Especially if using external inputs (esp midi).
I've been simplifying my UI (only one waveform~ object left!), but have been loath to get rid of meter~s as they are a confirmation that any particular module is actually outputting audio (useful when I'm working to be able to have visual confirmation of what's going on).
And my patch is constructed almost entirely of bpatchers containing quite a lot of UI objects (I've hidden all of the immediately non-essential controls either in sub patches or offscreen bpatchers. And I offloaded the midi input to a standalone, which sends to the main patch via OSC. That has all helped, but the whole patch is still too clunky. (NB - it didn't use to be like this in max5.))
I'm hoping that C74 is working on improving the performance of Max, but I'm not enough of a hard-coder to know how feasible that actually is).

Andrew Pask's icon

We're happy to collect patchers which are slow for users in Max 6 and use them to benchmark Max 7. Please send them in to support. Movies of screen actions are good too , for us to get an idea

Cheers

-A

davidestevens's icon

Hi Andrew,
I can send you the Project folder fairly quickly, but instructions and descriptions will take a little longer. I should probably wait until I can send both at the same time, yes? (it'll be via Dropbox - I'll send you an invite once it's ready. What email should I use? - I don't particularly want to advertise the folder to everyone (sorry everyone)).

Andrew Pask's icon

support at cycling 74 dot com

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Cheers

-A

yaniki's icon

Max 7!

Florent Ghys's icon

Hello,
Just wanted to mention that the trick "open in low resolution" made the UI display in my patch much faster and reactive on a macbook pro retina display with OSX 10.9.4
(I was using the same patch on a 2011 macbook OSX 10.7.5 and its display was way faster. Now they behave the same way.)
thanks Matteo