MaxMSP and Mac OS 10.4.11

Jakob Riis's icon

Still on Mac OS Tiger here! A few days ago I upgraded my system from Mac
OS X 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 which resulted in a lot of clicks and pops in
the sound output from MaxMSP. Other software like iTunes wasn't
affectet. I spent a lot of time downgrading the system to 10.4.10 again.
Now I wonder if its finally time to give up on Tiger and move to Mac OS
Leopard instead, and are curious to know of any experiences/issues with
10.5.2 and MaxMSP?

I use a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz and MaxMSP 4.3.6.

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jr.abstractions for MaxMSP
http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/
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DonK's icon

Try turning your airport off when using Max. It helps my Macbook running 10.4.11

Lars Graugaard's icon

I'm on OSX 10.5.2, max 4.6.3, MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz duo, build-in
converter or motu & everything works fine...

Jakob Riis skrev:
> Still on Mac OS Tiger here! A few days ago I upgraded my system from Mac
> OS X 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 which resulted in a lot of clicks and pops in
> the sound output from MaxMSP. Other software like iTunes wasn't
> affectet. I spent a lot of time downgrading the system to 10.4.10 again.
> Now I wonder if its finally time to give up on Tiger and move to Mac OS
> Leopard instead, and are curious to know of any experiences/issues with
> 10.5.2 and MaxMSP?
>
> I use a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz and MaxMSP 4.3.6.
>
> __________________________________
>
> jr.abstractions for MaxMSP
> http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/
> __________________________________
>
>
>
>

roger.carruthers's icon

Could it be related to the recent Airport Extreme
update perhaps...?
http://tinyurl.com/4s8phe
cheers
Roger

--- Lars Graugaard wrote:

> I'm on OSX 10.5.2, max 4.6.3, MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz
> duo, build-in
> converter or motu & everything works fine...
>
> Jakob Riis skrev:
> > Still on Mac OS Tiger here! A few days ago I
> upgraded my system from Mac
> > OS X 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 which resulted in a lot of
> clicks and pops in
> > the sound output from MaxMSP. Other software like
> iTunes wasn't
> > affectet. I spent a lot of time downgrading the
> system to 10.4.10 again.
> > Now I wonder if its finally time to give up on
> Tiger and move to Mac OS
> > Leopard instead, and are curious to know of any
> experiences/issues with
> > 10.5.2 and MaxMSP?
> >
> > I use a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz and MaxMSP 4.3.6.
> >
> > __________________________________
> >
> > jr.abstractions for MaxMSP
> > http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/
> > __________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Thomas Sandberg's icon

I'm on Macbook Pro 2,4 Ghz, leopard 10.5.2 , MaxMSP 4.6.3 and
everything is working but Pluggo, Mode and Hipno are not working as
audio units or VST's in my other host DAW software !!

Den 09/04/2008 kl. 11.45 skrev Lars Graugaard:

> I'm on OSX 10.5.2, max 4.6.3, MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz duo, build-in
> converter or motu & everything works fine...
>
> Jakob Riis skrev:
>> Still on Mac OS Tiger here! A few days ago I upgraded my system
>> from Mac
>> OS X 10.4.10 to 10.4.11 which resulted in a lot of clicks and pops in
>> the sound output from MaxMSP. Other software like iTunes wasn't
>> affectet. I spent a lot of time downgrading the system to 10.4.10
>> again.
>> Now I wonder if its finally time to give up on Tiger and move to
>> Mac OS
>> Leopard instead, and are curious to know of any experiences/issues
>> with
>> 10.5.2 and MaxMSP?
>> I use a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz and MaxMSP 4.3.6.
>> __________________________________
>> jr.abstractions for MaxMSP
>> http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/
>> __________________________________

Jakob Riis's icon

>Could it be related to the recent Airport Extreme
>update perhaps...?
Yes - that would make sense. Realised I was wrong in my first mail. I
actually WAS at 10.4.11 before the problem arised. The update that was
causing the problems included the Airport Extreme update + something
more i forgot what was...

Will check up on it, but not till after this evenings concert :-)

/J

Brad Garton's icon

Here's my Stupid Apple Question of the day:

How can we find out if/when Apple fixes this?

On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:41 AM, ROGER CARRUTHERS wrote:

> Could it be related to the recent Airport Extreme
> update perhaps...?
> http://tinyurl.com/4s8phe
> cheers
> Roger

Timothy Place's icon

On 2008 Apr 9, at 5:45 AM, Thomas Sandberg wrote:
> I'm on Macbook Pro 2,4 Ghz, leopard 10.5.2 , MaxMSP 4.6.3 and
> everything is working but Pluggo, Mode and Hipno are not working as
> audio units or VST's in my other host DAW software !!

If you download fresh copies of the installers from Cycling's site and
install them, I believe that Pluggo, Mode, Hipno, etc. will work again
for you.

Speaking of Hipno, did everyone see the review in Recording Magazine
this month ;-).

best,
Tim
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Tap.Tools / Teabox / Hipno / Hemisphere
http://electrotap.com

Thomas Sandberg's icon

Thank you Tim !
I have just deleted all the old files with the "Pluggo cleaner" and
then reinstalled Hipno, Mode and Pluggo.
Now it works again in all programs.

Thomas
Den 09/04/2008 kl. 15.51 skrev Timothy Place:

> On 2008 Apr 9, at 5:45 AM, Thomas Sandberg wrote:
>> I'm on Macbook Pro 2,4 Ghz, leopard 10.5.2 , MaxMSP 4.6.3 and
>> everything is working but Pluggo, Mode and Hipno are not working as
>> audio units or VST's in my other host DAW software !!
>
>
> If you download fresh copies of the installers from Cycling's site
> and install them, I believe that Pluggo, Mode, Hipno, etc. will work
> again for you.
>
> Speaking of Hipno, did everyone see the review in Recording Magazine
> this month ;-).
>
> best,
> Tim
> _________________
> Tap.Tools / Teabox / Hipno / Hemisphere
> http://electrotap.com
>

Jakob Riis's icon

Yes - it was certainly the AirPort Extreme update 2008-001 that was
causing problems. I'm now on a 10.4.11 system, totally up-to-date except
the AirPort Extreme update, and everythig is fine :-)

/J

John Chowning's icon

Yep, when I turn off airport the interruptions disappear. I note that with airport on the CPU utilization goes way up, like bouncing off 100%. Deep breath and thanks to you all. -jc

kjg's icon

Quote: Timothy Place wrote on Wed, 09 April 2008 15:51
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> Speaking of Hipno, did everyone see the review in Recording Magazine
> this month ;-).
>

i'd like to read it.
could you link to it? or quote from it?

oh and something else - how about tap tools 3? just after i bought taptools 2i think i read somewhere on electotap.com that it would be released around the same time as max 5. is that still going to happen?

regards,
kjg

Timothy Place's icon

On 2008 Apr 13, at 8:17 AM, Klaas-Jan Govaart wrote:
>
> Quote: Timothy Place wrote on Wed, 09 April 2008 15:51
> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Speaking of Hipno, did everyone see the review in Recording Magazine
>> this month ;-).
>
> i'd like to read it.
> could you link to it? or quote from it?
>
> oh and something else - how about tap tools 3? just after i bought
> taptools 2i think i read somewhere on electotap.com that it would be
> released around the same time as max 5. is that still going to happen?

There is currently a very nice aroma floating out of the Tap.Tools 3
kitchen :-).

There will be a beta version of Tap.Tools 3 available for all
registered users (but registered users only) of Tap.Tools 2 at the
same time that Max 5 is released. A full release of Tap.Tools 3 will
hopefully be available to all a couple of weeks later.

Electrotap is following the same the policy as Cycling '74 w/r/t to
free updates for folks who bought Tap.Tools 2 back through October.
The upgrade pricing has not been made available yet, but it's pretty
cheap -- not much more than a pound of my favorite coffee beans.

best,
Tim
_________________
Tap.Tools / Teabox / Hipno / Hemisphere
http://electrotap.com

kjg's icon

> There is currently a very nice aroma floating out of the Tap.Tools 3
> kitchen :-).
>
> There will be a beta version of Tap.Tools 3 available for all
> registered users (but registered users only) of Tap.Tools 2 at the
> same time that Max 5 is released. A full release of Tap.Tools 3 will
> hopefully be available to all a couple of weeks later.
>
> Electrotap is following the same the policy as Cycling '74 w/r/t to
> free updates for folks who bought Tap.Tools 2 back through October.
> The upgrade pricing has not been made available yet, but it's pretty
> cheap -- not much more than a pound of my favorite coffee beans.
>
> best,
> Tim
> _________________
> Tap.Tools / Teabox / Hipno / Hemisphere
> http://electrotap.com
>
>
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Hi Tim,

That's good news! Depending on how much coffee you need to do your C++ooking, TT3 should provide you with at least a few months worth of beans then, I guess ;)

Thank you for the update. I'm looking forward to playing with the beta, especially since Max 5 offers many rounded corners but not many new objects...

Regards,
Klaas-Jan