Midi Controlled Pitch Quantizer with Sequencer

pings22's icon

I have a sequencer, followed by a pitch quantizer. I'd like to use a MIDI keyboard to select which pitches are allowed through the quantizer.

How can I address the quantizer with my MIDI keyboard while still allowing the MIDI data from the sequencer to pass through?

Have I run into the Ableton limitation on using multiple MIDI channels on a single track? Why can't I, for example, allow the sequencer to run on MIDI channel 1 and then use MIDI channel 2 for selecting with my keyboard the pitches that can be passed through the quantizer?

Basically, I'd like to "play" the pitch quantizer with a MIDI keyboard in order to transform the sequencer melody in real time.

Thanks for any help you might be able to give me!

Pitch Quantizer

Source Audio's icon

I am not Live user and don't suffer it's limitations.

to separate notes from normal stream, use midiselect.
give midiselect a list of notes to pass at leftmost outlet,
the rest will pass at rightmost outlet.

Check imp.midi externals that allow devices to receive midi outside of Live's little world.

here is exampe: only held notes on midi ch 2 get selected


pings22's icon

Thanks, Source Audio. I'm having issues installing the imp.midi externals: "could not load to due to incorrect architecture." Maybe they're not apple silicon compatible?

Source Audio's icon

you did not tell anyhing about your system,
otherwise I would not have suggested imp externals.

No, they are not arm64 compatible.

You will have to find other ways of dealing with multimidi.
Or why do you need that anyway ?
If notes are in the seq anyway, you input your keyboard and that's it, or ?

pings22's icon

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here:

"You wil have to find other ways of dealing with multimidi. Or why do yu need that anyway ? If notes are in the seq anyway, you input your keyboard and that's it, or ?"

When the sequencer device is activated it takes priority, and I'm unable to control the quantizer with my midi keyboard. (When the sequencer is inactive I can control the quantizer with my keyboard).

It sounds so much more complicated than it is. There's probably some simple solution that I'm overlooking. Anyway, thanks for your help.

Roman Thilenius's icon

not a live user either, but the normal approach would be to use two different midi channels?

pings22's icon

Yes, but apparently Ableton doesn't allow multiple midi channels on a single track...I may have to use a keyboard with CV out to select the pitches for the quantizer, though I'm still hoping there's an easier solution to what seems like a very basic feature.

Roman Thilenius's icon

some little midi hardwarebox which can transform the notes from the keyboard into CC could be of help.

or you do a keyboard split in your setup and use ocatves 0-5 to modulate 6-10

Sébastien Gay's icon

Not a specialist either, but I do remember that MIDI Instrument Rack has a Key Zone function that may be of some help:
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/instrument-drum-and-effect-racks/ Section 20.5 Zones.

Source Audio's icon

Why don't you put all that little devices into single one ?
then you can route midi by switching live.button,
or assign foot controller, whatever.
That step sequncer is only live.step with few params.

pings22's icon

Thanks for the help!