midi in pluggos possible?


    Apr 19 2006 | 11:45 pm
    hello folks. i'm interested in creating some pluggo plugins that take in
    midi info, and was wondering if that is, or will ever be, possible. i know
    pluggos can easily deal with audio in and out, but i'd like to create a
    simple midi filter, similar to the ones available in ableton live. i want
    to be able to filter out notes that are double hit too quickly, to adjust
    the length of time the notes are held, and to adjust the amount of time
    between notes, among other things. i know it is possible to do this within
    a max/msp patch, but...
    best future,
    john

    • Apr 20 2006 | 2:19 pm
      bine~, when posting this kind of replies, maybe you could offer a
      reference to the proper page as well? MaxMSP is a complex language
      and the documentation quite extensive. Maybe we should adopt some of
      the friendly attitude towards new users from the Csound list? On that
      list the following is posted twice a month:
      This is a periodic reminder. The Csound list welcomes posts from
      people with ALL levels of skill, from the newest newbie to the most
      serious hacker. The subject and tenor of the posts vary
      dramatically depending on what the current questions are. Newbies are
      sometimes afraid to post because they read discussions about the
      incomprehensible deep inner workings, and all they want to know is how
      to get a sound to come out of their iBook. Rest assured that your
      question will be answered quickly, and (usually) in a helpful and
      courteous manner. We've all been there. Please post.
      John, check out PluggoDev35pdfin the Ploggo folder, in particular the
      introduction and tutorial 8 and 9.
      Best,
      Trond
    • Apr 20 2006 | 2:46 pm
      i agree we need to be nice with newbies, since we've been newbies too.
      but this is not the Csound list, the volume of messages on the max list
      is crazy. the average on the csound list is about 5 messages a day, so
      yeah they need to encourage people to post.. max is so well documented
      that we should never see a post asking about a toggle or the select
      object because it is really the basic logic behind max and proves that
      the person has not even tried to find an answer on his own.. newbies
      usually don't piss me off, laziness does.
      jm
    • Apr 20 2006 | 3:22 pm
      That's OK. If you want a coffee break, here's a recommendation for
      some good music to go along with it:
      Piece,
      Trond
    • Apr 20 2006 | 6:33 pm
      > bine~, when posting this kind of replies, maybe you could offer a
      > reference to the proper page as well? MaxMSP is a complex language
      > and the documentation quite extensive.
      sorry to add one on top: the MAXMSP documents
      definetly do not explain the guy how his VST
      or AU host program works, no matter how often
      he reads them.
      even if you tell them "look into plugmidiin.help"
      that is not a helpful reply and will only cause
      new posts to the list of subject "why does
      plug-midiin not work in LAP".
      i could start giving a good example now by simply
      answering his question but i am not in a mood tonight.
      -110 @ yet another useless post.
    • Apr 22 2006 | 11:35 pm
      well, i'm not a noobie, but no offense taken.
      just to let people know that at one point, not too long ago, it wasn't
      possible to pass midi in pluggos (especially within ableton live) without a
      workaround.
    • Apr 23 2006 | 3:10 am
      yeah i vaguely remeber something about
      runtime threading issues with either midi
      in or out in live 4 which could be solved
      by putting a [delay 0] in front of it
      in _live 4.x.
      well, the answer to your question remains
      "it depends on the host".
      last week there was a post in the pluggo forum
      about something with midi which also do not
      work in SX without a workaround.
      _logic does not support [plugmidi ..]; but in
      OS 9 / windows LAP you could use midiin instead
      of plugmidiin.
      no idea about LAP 7 with AU pluggo but my guess
      is it is not supportet.
      what you could do in LAP 7 AU though is using a
      few [pp] s of range 0 127 and leave the rest to
      LAP. :)
      from what i remember the _live thing was fixed
      and [plugmidin] and [plugmidiout] work in VST
      pluggo in _live now.
      i am not a noobie either, but i am currently
      building my first standalone ever from a recent
      live performance patch.
      hell i _am a noobie! i am not even able to close
      the program without a midi-warning on next launch!