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riotchild

In any patch I make, MIDI works fine, until I enable audio, them MIDI stops working (no sounds are generated) until I quit and restart Max. Any ideas why this is happening?

In any patch I make, MIDI works fine, until I enable audio, them MIDI stops working (no sounds are generated) until I quit and restart Max. 

midi-stops-working-when-audio-enabled

Launch Max, open the patch in Extras -> MIDITester. Does it work with your MIDI set-up?

Now, turn audio on. Does the patch behave differently?

Launch Max, open the patch in Extras -> MIDITester. Does it work with your MIDI set-up?
Now, turn audio on. Does the patch behave differently?

I'm not using a midi setup per se, in Max I'm sending note numbers (messages) to [makenote] then [noteout], which works fine, but when audio is turned on in Max, it stops working. the Miditester doesn't assist with this issue.

Screen Shot 2020-07-13 at 11.38.39 am.png

This is the patch. It generates midi sounds fine, then when I turn on audio, midi stops working.

again, post the details, which system, take a screenshot of 

again, post the details, which system, take a screenshot of 
Audio Status window


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"Again"?

OSX Catalina 10.15.5
MacBook Pro (15 inch, 2019)
Max Version 8.1.5 (9359645) (64-bit mac)

So, what you're using is the built-in MIDI synthesizer from the Mac (AU DLS Synth? should show up when you double-click on noteout). This is certainly Catalina-specific, so I hope some Catalina user will be able to help you.

- why 2 [makenote] objects? Maybe you want to hear the note twice. I was expecting something like:

- you are currently working with quite a small vector size. For "usual" work, I would use a larger value, why not 64 or even 256 samples.

So, what you're using is the built-in MIDI synthesizer from the Mac (AU DLS Synth? should show up when you double-click on noteout). This is certainly Catalina-specific, so I hope some Catalina user will be able to help you.
That said:
- why 2 [makenote] objects? Maybe you want to hear the note twice. I was expecting something like:

Apologies for doubling up on the [makenote] I have updated the screenshots.

I changed the vector size to 256, MIDI works ok, then when I turn on audio, it stops. When I turn off audio, MIDI still doesn't work and won't work until I restart Max. It did this on my previous MacBook Pro on which I ran the OSX that was prior to Catalina.

Apologies for doubling up on the [makenote] I have updated the screenshots.

I changed the vector size to 256, MIDI works ok, then when I turn on audio, it stops. When I turn off audio, MIDI still doesn't work and won't work until I restart Max. It did this on my previous MacBook Pro on which I ran the OSX that was prior to Catalina. 

2048 & 2 vector sizes are making no sense.

default is 512 / 64, one can tweak that for less latency

like 128 / 64 which is kind of fast enough for playing

As you provide no infos about where you send midi,

one could take it that it goes to DSL Synth.

DSL synth stops responding to midi messages from Max.

Midi itself still does work, loopback test on IAC Buss

P.S. if you for whatever reason need that 2048 I/O Vector,

load AU DSL synth into vst~ object and see if it works...

That audio setup looks strange.
What is that output 11 ?
2048 & 2 vector sizes are making no sense.
default is 512 / 64, one can tweak that for less latency
like 128 / 64 which is kind of fast enough for playing
virtual instruments.
--------
As you provide no infos about where you send midi,
one could take it that it goes to DSL Synth.
if one set's I/O Vector higher than 1024,
DSL synth stops responding to midi messages from Max.
Midi itself still does work, loopback test on IAC Buss
confirmed.
P.S. if you for whatever reason need that 2048 I/O Vector,
load AU DSL synth into vst~ object and see if it works...


SOLVED: As soon as I turned off 'Scheduler in Overdrive' it worked fine, without changing any other settings.

I would suggest you read first about this things in Max

docs and reference, to understand the consequences of turning

Scheduler on or off, as well as Overdrive.

I would suggest you read first about this things in Max
docs and reference, to understand the consequences of turning
Scheduler on or off, as well as Overdrive.


Nope, don't care. I just wanted to get it working. But while we're all making suggestions, I would suggest you temper your tone.

You didn't spot the scheduler issue either champ, so hop down off that high horse you're on.

no problem, you will not receive any replies to your posts in the future from my side

I suddenly have the same issue today. it has been working before... but suddenly behavior strangely. it didn't solve the problem even I followed to turn off the "scheduler in Overdrive"... 

the symptom is exactly same:"When I turn off audio, MIDI still doesn't work and won't work until I restart Max."

I am using Ventura MacOS. does anyone have any idea?

Hi All, revive this topic. 
I suddenly have the same issue today. it has been working before... but suddenly behavior strangely. it didn't solve the problem even I followed to turn off the "scheduler in Overdrive"... 
the symptom is exactly same:"When I turn off audio, MIDI still doesn't work and won't work until I restart Max."
I am using Ventura MacOS. does anyone have any idea?
thanks 


output to something else than AU DLS Synth to check.

sure midi is a problem ?
output to something else than AU DLS Synth to check.

MIDI stops working when audio enabled