modalys~ tutorials + help files ?
Hey,
So i'd like to understand modalys~ in Max a little more, and since the tutorials and resources available mostly cover the lisp syntax, and not Max indiosyncratic integration specificities, well i was wondering if anyone could help in that regard ?.. I tried the ircam modalys forum, but it's not very proactive.
Thanks in advance !
vichug,
I'm no expert, but I don't mind to help where I can. I have used mlys in poly~.
I saw your message to the modalys forum. I have seen them repsond consistently to questions. Maybe you just caught them on the weekend?
There are help files for some of the mlys objects included in the latest download. I may be easier to navigate to them directly and open up the ones of interest. Just in case you missed this, in the ForumApps take the patches out of presenttion mode and check out the subpatchers.
With the mlys objects the first arg is for the inlets, the second for the outlets. Try typing [mlys.point-input 1 2]. However I'm not sure if [mlys.point-input] is where you want to specify additional accesses, rather it should be on the object [mlys.mono-string 1 2] or similar.
Yes, the mlys objects are heavy. The Stretching one has a lot going on: four mlys plates + a bunch of other audio processing including limiting and reverb.
Best,
Simon
thanks a lot for the answer !
i should probably learn some more patience indeed.
For [mlys.point-input] : i was tricked by the way that alt-text says "input access" on the object's inlets ; it apparently has different meaning that the actual modalys's input points. Surely it is needed to type [mlys.mono-string 1 2] but there is only one input for an input point ; i wanted to have two [mlys.signal]->[mlys.pluck] (for example). It's for that kind of things that i wished for helpfiles...
...and now i found the helpfiles ! indeed i hadn't noticed them because i hadn't tried to open helpfile for those objects. But it does feel like there is a lot of undocumented things (like attributes ; there is the @channel attribute for point-input in a helpfile, it is not clear why) and i still feel lost - however thanks a lot for the help.
btw what is a "mode" ?...
Modes are (or are similar to) the eigenfrequencies of a system, like a room or instrument, that is, the natural resonant frequencies (they're also like harmonics or partials). Modal synthesis is about calulating the strength of these frequencies over time, based on the properties of the instrument and of the excitation, or the energy applied to the system.
In general with mlys you connect a bunch of objects that generate a script wich the Modalys engine ([modalys~]) object uses to generate the system and accept the excitations. You can learn some things by seeing what the script looks like after it is generated (double click on [mlys.script]).
In the ForumApps in the Mlys.ResonDevice there is an example of a mono-string with two signal inputs. You have to navigate to the folder and open it there to get a look.
Ok..; so it looks like i could learn a lot from standards modalys toots
and nice catch, thanks, i didn't think there were more examples than the forum apps. Didn't think about looking for stuff manually...
Yes, they're improving things all the time,. but it still takes some looking around and sorting things out. Ask if something comes up. All the best.
Cool to see that you guys made another topic for Modalys, it's really a great tool.
I'm still completely confused as to how to use the soundboard files. Like Vichug mentions, the main problem is that the better explained and more in-depth tutorials are only for the lisp environment. The Max tutorials are a good starting point but they do leave quite a bit to be desired.
(i made the new topic with the sole purpose to use the "invite user" feature ;) i would've invited you Maladie too, but dunno how i could invite 2 different users. all in all that feature feels a bit odd however)
Haha, no worries :) If anything it perhaps makes a few more people curious about what Modalys is, which is positive
you are using max 64 bits instead of 32 i think
try updating your max version ?