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I do solo performances with Max, and have various instruments sequenced, like the Bass, Drums, I use poly~ to generate chords and have a synth melodic type voice. All of these voices are coming out of a stereo mix and into a PA.

My question is how can I get more low frequencies out of Max? My bass synth doesn't really have a super fat sound, or really loud low frequencies. With my same computer, interface and speakers, if I open up Logic Audio and play one of their bass synths it's super fat with tons of low end frequencies. Maybe it's the bass synths I tend to use, maybe it's just Max. I don't know. Maybe I should eq the bass differently. I started adding omx.comp~ as my last object before the audio goes out and that helped smooth out the sound because sometimes the kick drum sound was really loud, but the bass could still use some help.

I do solo performances with Max, and have various instruments sequenced, like the Bass, Drums, I use poly~ to generate chords and have a synth melodic type voice. All of these voices are coming out of a stereo mix and into a PA. 

My question is how can I get more low frequencies out of Max? My bass synth doesn't really have a super fat sound, or really loud low frequencies. With my same computer, interface and speakers, if I open up Logic Audio and play one of their bass synths it's super fat with tons of low end frequencies. Maybe it's the bass synths I tend to use, maybe it's just Max. I don't know. Maybe I should eq the bass differently. I started adding omx.comp~ as my last object before the audio goes out and that helped smooth out the sound because sometimes the kick drum sound was really loud, but the bass could still use some help. 

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Max doesn't lack low end. In fact, it'll happily work with a 3hz sinewave at full blast, messing up everything in its path.

>My bass synth doesn’t really have a super fat sound

well then Max won't fix that going out. You need to provide the frequencies.

What's your bass synth like? I've never not been able to make something deep and insane with max' sound engine, to be honest.

So the problem is somewhere else.
>My bass synth doesn’t really have a super fat sound

well then Max won't fix that going out. You need to provide the frequencies.
What's your bass synth like? I've never not been able to make something deep and insane with max' sound engine, to be honest.


>>if I open up Logic Audio and play one of their bass synths it’s super fat with tons of low end frequencies.

At the risk of stating the obvious, how about playing your Logic bass from Max?

Hi guys thanks for your replies. Christopher Dobrian, I would rather do everything in Max if that's possible, mostly because I'm using some midi controllers I made and It would be hard to use them to send midi notes to Logic. I know I can but I'd rather not.

Wetterberg, if what you are saying is true than I guess the problem lies in the bass synths that I make.

I just looked at one, it's basically a saw~ and rect~ object, than the same thing doubled an octave above. Both go through a smooth biquad in peaknotch mode. I'll experiment on my own but if anyone have any suggestions as to where to start to get something with more low end I'd love to hear them.

Hi guys thanks for your replies. Christopher Dobrian, I would rather do everything in Max if that's possible, mostly because I'm using some midi controllers I made and It would be hard to use them to send midi notes to Logic. I know I can but I'd rather not.  

Wetterberg, if what you are saying is true than I guess the problem lies in the bass synths that I make. 

I just looked at one, it's basically a saw~ and rect~ object, than the same thing doubled an octave above. Both go through a smooth biquad in peaknotch mode. I'll experiment on my own but if anyone have any suggestions as to where to start to get something with more low end I'd love to hear them. 

any suggestions as to where to start to get something with more low end

in Max, it's just a matter of building something very specific to your needs. you can try cascade~ to get several filters in series for a more detailed eq, then push that into something like omx.4band~(or .5band~...)...

or if you want to get more creative, see the max/examples/effects/kompressor folder and work the multiband example there with a sidechain/key, then you can compress bass with sidechains to get more detailed mixing...

there's no quick answer beyond the omx stuff, though, unless you take something like svf~ and just boost the lowpass :)

in Max, it's just a matter of building something very specific to your needs. you can try cascade~ to get several filters in series for a more detailed eq, then push that into something like omx.4band~(or .5band~...)...
or if you want to get more creative, see the max/examples/effects/kompressor folder and work the multiband example there with a sidechain/key, then you can compress bass with sidechains to get more detailed mixing...

there's no quick answer beyond the omx stuff, though, unless you take something like svf~ and just boost the lowpass :)


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