Munger~ multichannel ???

Kasper's icon

Hi
I use since a long time the munger~ object (part of percolate) and I some how remember using it years ago in a multichannel configuration (I was able to configure Munger~to have maybe 8 separate outs) which as i remember was an argument for the object... Today i can not find it anymore - is it me and i joust dreamed having this possibility or did it exist and now does not anymore ? Munger insist on being a STEREO granulator....
If someone knows...
thank you

Isabel Kaspriskie's icon

I don't know whether there was ever a multichannel configuration as an argument, but as of v1.3.0, there is [mc.munger~] in the PeRColate package.

Kasper's icon

thanks -
yeah, i have seen. However , out of simple curiosity, what I seem to remember was years before mc - Max 5 probably, if not maxMSP 4 !!! now I read there was a "diss_munger~" which i might have used but have no remembrance of

Kasper's icon

Ok, does not seem to interest a lot of people, but I can answer (a small part) of my own question(s) :

so YES Munger~ does accept a certain number of out channels (up to how many, i dont know...) you have to type it as second argument (after the buffer size. something such as munger~ 3000 7 gives you seven different outputs (!!!) . However it does work only if you give it " spatialise" as an argument with values of gain and "spread" so "spatialise 1. 0. 1. 0. 0.5 0." foe instance will play the first 2 channels at "full" and the third one at half volume. Not quite sure what "spread" is (here the second argument, but it seems to give a different sound to each channel, plus to boost the volume.. I do not know if it is documented anywhere, but it works !!!

Holland Hopson's icon

I think 'spread' refers to stereo spread of the grains. 0 = no spread, each grain is panned to the center of the stereo pair. 1 = maximum spread, each grain is randomly panned somewhere between left and right of the stereo pair. There seems to be some non-intuitive relationship between gain and spread, though. Try setting both to 0. and then raising each one in turn.

I would choose a different granulator if you need precise gain and panning.

Kasper's icon

hi, thanks for the reaction.
But NO, as spread is applied to separate (mono) outs, it does not control the stereo spread (no panning ) spread sure changes the sound of the given channel, but does not "stereo-ize" - spread at 0 on channel 1 et 3 and at 1. on channel 2 does not spread any more grains on 1 and 3. But gives a nice grain.
And no, no different granulator in my case as i like munger very much
thank you