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I use since a long time the munger~ object (part of percolate) and I some how remember using it years ago in a multichannel configuration (I was able to configure Munger~to have maybe 8 separate outs) which as i remember was an argument for the object... Today i can not find it anymore - is it me and i joust dreamed having this possibility or did it exist and now does not anymore ? Munger insist on being a STEREO granulator....

Hi
I use since a long time the munger~ object (part of percolate) and I some how remember using it years ago in a multichannel configuration (I was able to configure Munger~to have maybe 8 separate outs) which as i remember was an argument for the object... Today i can not find it anymore  - is it me and i joust dreamed having this possibility or did it exist and now does not anymore ? Munger insist on being a STEREO granulator....
If someone knows...
thank you

Hi
I use since a long time the munger~ object (part of percolate) and I some how remember using it years ago in a multichannel configuration

munger~-multichannel

I don't know whether there was ever a multichannel configuration as an argument, but as of v1.3.0, there is [mc.munger~] in the PeRColate package.

yeah, i have seen. However , out of simple curiosity, what I seem to remember was years before mc - Max 5 probably, if not maxMSP 4 !!! now I read there was a "diss_munger~" which i might have used but have no remembrance of

thanks - 
yeah, i have seen. However , out of simple curiosity, what I seem to remember was years before mc - Max 5 probably, if not maxMSP 4 !!! now I read there was a "diss_munger~" which i might  have used but have no remembrance of


Ok, does not seem to interest a lot of people, but I can answer (a small part) of my own question(s) :

so YES Munger~ does accept a certain number of out channels (up to how many, i dont know...) you have to type it as second argument (after the buffer size. something such as munger~ 3000 7 gives you seven different outputs (!!!) . However it does work only if you give it " spatialise" as an argument with values of gain and "spread" so "spatialise 1. 0. 1. 0. 0.5 0." foe instance will play the first 2 channels at "full" and the third one at half volume. Not quite sure what "spread" is (here the second argument, but it seems to give a different sound to each channel, plus to boost the volume.. I do not know if it is documented anywhere, but it works !!!

Ok, does not seem to  interest a lot of people, but I can answer (a small part) of my own question(s) :

so YES Munger~ does accept a certain number of out channels (up to how many, i dont know...) you have to type it as second argument (after the buffer size. something such as munger~ 3000 7 gives you seven different outputs (!!!) . However it does work only if you give it " spatialise" as an argument  with values of gain and "spread" so "spatialise 1. 0. 1. 0. 0.5 0." foe instance will play the first 2 channels at "full" and the third one at half volume. Not quite sure what "spread" is (here the second argument, but it seems to give a different sound to each channel, plus to boost the volume..  I do not know if it is documented anywhere, but it works !!!


I think 'spread' refers to stereo spread of the grains. 0 = no spread, each grain is panned to the center of the stereo pair. 1 = maximum spread, each grain is randomly panned somewhere between left and right of the stereo pair. There seems to be some non-intuitive relationship between gain and spread, though. Try setting both to 0. and then raising each one in turn.

I would choose a different granulator if you need precise gain and panning.

I think 'spread' refers to stereo spread of the grains. 0 = no spread, each grain is panned to the center of the stereo pair. 1 = maximum spread, each grain is randomly panned somewhere between left and right of the stereo pair. There seems to be some non-intuitive relationship between gain and spread, though. Try setting both to 0. and then raising each one in turn.

I would choose a different granulator if you need precise gain and panning.


But NO, as spread is applied to separate (mono) outs, it does not control the stereo spread (no panning ) spread sure changes the sound of the given channel, but does not "stereo-ize" - spread at 0 on channel 1 et 3 and at 1. on channel 2 does not spread any more grains on 1 and 3. But gives a nice grain.

And no, no different granulator in my case as i like munger very much

hi, thanks for the reaction.
But NO, as spread is applied to separate (mono) outs, it does not control the stereo spread (no panning ) spread sure changes the sound of the given channel, but does not "stereo-ize" - spread at 0 on channel 1 et 3 and at 1. on channel 2 does not spread any more grains on 1 and 3. But gives a nice grain.
And no, no different granulator in my case as i like munger very much
thank you

Munger~ multichannel ???