"nopointer" problem with wacom on intel

Wahed's icon

Hi everybody,

I recently opened an old 'wacom' patch in Max 4.6.3 on my brand new MacPro and I'm having some problem with the mouse pointer.
On my G4, I had no problem; sending the message "nopointer 1" disconnected the wacom from the pointer. But since I've tried it on intel, the message doesn't work with the latest Wacom driver; I have to install an older driver and it works. But when I restart the computer, the pointer is again connected to the wacom.
I have to install again the older driver to make it work again... Pretty frustrating, isn't it ?
Did someone experience the same problem ? Does someone have an idea ?

Thanks for everything and have a nice day !

Georges Forget.
Composer, Montreal.

oli larkin's icon

I have a similar problem...

the wacom object reports that the driver is too old (even though it is the latest)

When I set nopointer 1, a few minutes later the tablet starts controlling the pointer again. Then I have to restart max in order to reset.

did you contact the author of the external?

oli

mzed's icon

I've got the source code and I'm looking into this. Unfortunately, we're all fighting some other deadlines here at CNMAT, so we won't be able to move very quickly.

I'm about to to a big performance using Wacom Driver 4.9.6-3; that still seems fine to me. I'll have to see what's different about 6.0x

Thanks,

mz

mzed's icon
Wahed's icon

Hi,

Yes I have the same problem! With an older driver, it works a couple of times, then this strange behavior is happening again.

Georges.

> The only bad behavior is that the tablet still has control of the pointer when I return to Max, and retoggling the nopointer message does not change that. However, if I re-instantiate the wacom object, I can once again disable the pointer.
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> mz
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oli larkin's icon

> Does this match your experience?

yes

oli

Sebastian Lexer's icon

I also experience the problems described above.

I also have to get a new tablet for an installation. Is the wacom object detecting all of the most recent range of tablets, or should I get a specific one? I would be particularly interested in getting the Bamboo one.

Thanks for any advice

Sebastian

mzed's icon

Quote: Sebastian Lexer wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 06:22
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> I also experience the problems described above.
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> I also have to get a new tablet for an installation. Is the wacom object detecting all of the most recent range of tablets, or should I get a specific one? I would be particularly interested in getting the Bamboo one.
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> Thanks for any advice
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> Sebastian
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I expect it should work; the wacom object is broadly tolerant of tablets. However, I haven't tried it. Let me know if it doesn't work.

mz

jln's icon

Quote: Sebastian Lexer wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 15:22
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> I also have to get a new tablet for an installation. Is the wacom object detecting all of the most recent range of tablets, or should I get a specific one? I would be particularly interested in getting the Bamboo one.
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> Thanks for any advice
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> Sebastian
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I just gave the wacom a (really) quick test. I own a Bamboo (the black model) and the wacom object works with it. The nopointer message is broken as well, though, as mentionned earlier in the discussion.

jmc's icon

Hello,

The "no pointer" problem appends with the 6.XX versions of wacom drivers ; It works fine for me with older versions of the driver (4.9.6-3 or other depending of the model of your wacom tablet).
I will e-mail wacom about that as soon as possible.

> the wacom object reports that the driver is too old (even though it is the latest)

I will have a look on this bug too.

Jean-Michel Couturier

PS : In the future, the wacom object for os X will be updated by the CNMAT

Sebastian Lexer's icon

Thanks a lot, this has been very helpful.

Sebastian

Zachary Seldess's icon

Hey guys,

I just installed a the latest driver for the Wacom Bamboo on my MacBook Pro running Leopard (10.5.2), and thought I would give everyone a quick update.

First, I installed the driver and software that came with the tablet out of box (this said it was the latest version for the Bamboo - that is, v 5.0.5-3). Instantiated the wacom object - Max window said no driver detected. I went to the help file, polled it and after a few seconds Max crashed.

I did this several times, restarted Max, restarted my computer, etc., with several different configurations of the object, all caused Max to crash after a few seconds.

I then uninstalled the driver and software, and tried to install the recommended v 4.96-3 driver. This installed fine on Leopard but didnt' recognize my Bamboo tablet (I expected this). Started up Max, instantiated wacom object, no complaints in the Max window, it recognized the driver, but the Bamboo was only controlling the mouse cursor, and not sending any info to the wacom object (the tablet apparently does not need a driver for simple mouse control on my system).

So then I uninstalled the 4.96-3 driver, downloaded the v5.0.5-3 driver from the Wacom website, and reinstalled it. NOW I instantiated the wacom object, get a message in Max window saying "driver too old", but viola, everything works fine. This was the same driver as I installed originally, except not off of the installation disc, but downloaded from the website. I have no idea why it works now, but it does.

Some details about nopointer bgrd:
If I set nopointer and bgrd to 1 right at the beginning, I can then move back an forth between other applications without the object losing control. It works great! I don't get any info from the four buttons or the scroll pad though (not sure if this reports on other wacom models).

There it is - hope it helps. I'm running Max 4.6.3 with Jitter 1.6.4-x2, by the way.

Zachary

mzed's icon

I've just posted a new, osx version of the wacom object at:

It no longer complains about drivers being too old, and works with the most current versions of the Bamboo and Intuos3 drivers. It now has assist strings.

Known issues:
"nopointer 1" is still a problem when Max loses focus. Would anybody be disturbed if nopointer 1 also set bgrd to 1, which solves this problem?

nopointer 0 doesn't work.

mouse mode doesn't work right.

I need to update the menu output to populate the menu properly

Any other bugs I'm missing? In the long run I'd like to convert it to OSC-Style messages, like the wacom wrapper that is also part of the CNMAT downloads.

mz

heavyside's icon

hi all-

just so i'm clear... is there any combination of object/driver that allows you to have the tablet pen behave as a mouse AS WELL AS getting all the tilt, etc., info from it through wacom?

that would appear to be impossible with my testing thus far...

cheers!
j

mzed's icon

Quote: mzed wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 13:26
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mzed's icon

Quote: mzed wrote on Sat, 09 August 2008 18:49
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Which isn't to say it won't be fixed. Just not right now.

mz