opening patcher/patcherview without window

    Apr 02 2013 | 4:33 pm
    does anyone know if there's a way to open a patcher, without opening a patcherwindow but with the ability to get a pointer to the patcherview belonging to that opened patcher?
    i'd like to add the "native" view of the patcherview as a subview using cocoa. at the moment it works as long as i have the patcherwindow open putting it out of the visible frame what leads to problems trying to use fullscreen.

    • Apr 07 2013 | 4:49 pm
      ...ok, asked differently:
      is it possible to close a window without releasing the patcher/patcherview with all of its (sub)components?
      i know there's object_retain but it does not seem safe to me to iterate through the whole patch retaining everything "by hand".